Little Britain - the state of England today

Alegrias1 the news footage I saw of the young men being housed in the disused office block showed, camp beds.

Chewbacca

Alegrias It's immaterial how ridiculous you may find low level racism, or that you care to refer to it with sarcasm, racism is racism, and is never acceptable.

Its time for the media to keep on focussing on the incidents of racism. Exactly! I agree with that 100%. And that includes right here; on this forum.

Trying to shame me won't work Chewbacca. I know the difference between racism and xenophobia, and I know that people like to say they are the victims when they have no idea what the problem is really like.

Alegrias1 apologies I have just seen that several younger children arrived yesterday.

GrannyGravy13

Alegrias1 not sure where you got eight or so people in a tiny dinghy GMB was filming live one day this week, in fact they kept their boat close to one of the dinghies until a Border Force jet ski arrived on the scene. Multiple dinghies filled with 12 and in some case 13, 14 men onboard.

I have seen the pictures of migrants being housed in a disused office block along with a hotel in Kent which the council has block booked for several months.

I think very few of the migrants arriving recently could be classed as children mid to late teens maybe more of an appropriate guesstimation .

www.channel4.com/news/uk-pays-france-54m-to-help-reduce-english-channel-migrant-crossings

I can't find the footage of the children sleeping on floors, I think it was Ch4 as well. So lefty propaganda, obviously.

I doesn't matter how many of the recently arrived migrants are classed as children; expecting them to sleep on the floor for days on end is not the way a civilised country behaves.

Alegrias It's immaterial how ridiculous you may find low level racism, or that you care to refer to it with sarcasm, racism is racism, and is never acceptable.

Its time for the media to keep on focussing on the incidents of racism. Exactly! I agree with that 100%. And that includes right here; on this forum.

Alegrias1 not sure where you got eight or so people in a tiny dinghy GMB was filming live one day this week, in fact they kept their boat close to one of the dinghies until a Border Force jet ski arrived on the scene. Multiple dinghies filled with 12 and in some case 13, 14 men onboard.

I have seen the pictures of migrants being housed in a disused office block along with a hotel in Kent which the council has block booked for several months.

I think very few of the migrants arriving recently could be classed as children mid to late teens maybe more of an appropriate guesstimation .

True enough about the oxygen of publicity GG13, that's a fair comment.

But as for the media promoting racism; the pictures I saw of the people arriving this week were mostly of 8 or so people in a tiny dinghy, almost overwhelmed with water, trying to paddle across one of the busiest sea routes in the world.

No "flipping the bird". Couldn't find that even after I googled it. Maybe the media you chose were presenting a gloating picture that they thought supported a particular view of migrants? Did they show the pictures of the unaccompanied children sleeping for days on the floor of an office waiting room, because we don't bother trying to treat them like human beings?

Alegrias1

^It’s time that the media stopped focusing on and giving publicity to the few and focus on the many.^

I disagree.

Its time for the media to keep on focussing on the incidents of racism that still exist so that no-one thinks its disappeared.

Why give racists the oxygen of publicity?

Prosecute them, publish their names where necessary, but without the sensational stories and the gloating pictures which seem to be a regular occurrence.

There have been many photos in MSM this week of the young male migrants landing here in the U.K., their gesture of choice appears to be flipping the bird at the first people they see?

It’s time that the media stopped focusing on and giving publicity to the few and focus on the many.

I disagree.

Its time for the media to keep on focussing on the incidents of racism that still exist so that no-one thinks its disappeared.

As for racism, our commuter belt town is very multicultural, we have friends of all races and religions as do our AC and GC.

It’s time that the media stopped focusing on and giving publicity to the few and focus on the many.

MissAdventure

I don't really relish seeing how others see Essex girls, to be honest.
It's not important to me to hear that people think I'm thick as two short planks, and common to boot. (With a foul accent)

I would hope people might form a more considered opinion. --or they may still think those are true of me and everyone else in Essex--

I have lived predominantly in Essex since a month before my fifteenth birthday, I must admit to finding all the Essex Girl jokes and slurs rather tiresome.

The onlyopen racismI've seen lately has been on this forum

You should probably contact Rashford and the other England players to tell them that what happened to them is as nothing, nothing I tell you, compared to a bit of a spat on Gransnet.

MawBe- there is no need for MayBe70 to 'know anything' - your personal attacks on every word and utterance I say are clear for all to see, day in, and day out.

And it seems from comments that you used to do the same with another, or other posters in the past. Not sure why you do- it does not bother me but it does puzzle me. That's OK- the problem is all yours - water over a duck's back for me- but it is a bit weird, really.

wrong thread!

I want to know where Usha disappeared to. Has she run away with Kathy and Jamie Perks? What happened to Tom Archers sausages? His grandmother invested a lot of money in those awaits thread on GN "I gave my grandson ££££s for his business enterprise and he's vanished with the money. What should I do?"

The only open racism I've seen lately has been on this forum, where England, and English people, have been regularly attacked as being considerably more violent, aggressive and an embarrassment around the world and on tv, despite no evidence being provided to substantiate that claim and despite substantial evidence that far worse events are happening in other European countries. And the fact that you're completely unapologetic for causing offence, by continuing with that narrative, confirms by beliefs.

Above all overs- one reason my foreigners from other countries chose to live there - because of this.
I don't know what this sentence is trying to say? Are you saying that you live outside of the UK and you sent your foreigners to England??? If so, and you're referring to the 1960s/1970s, believe me, England was most definitely not more welcoming at that time. Like every other country in Europe, racism still exists in England but has made, and continues to make, massive strides forwards in addressing it. Racism is unacceptable no matter to whom, or by whom.

MayBee70

I don’t seem to remember that previous poster pounding us with all that is wrong here. I just remember someone who loved this country and devoted her working life (as did her husband) to the people of this country and being in despair about some of the things that were happening. And being told it was none of her business because she was a foreigner. Even though one of the things she despaired of was the rise in racist crimes due to Farage et al.

Isn’t this totally irrelevant?
Most of us who have had careers in this country could claim the same as could indeed our partners and adult children - we didn’t seek exceptional mentions in despatches or medals for doing our job - and in any case, that poster no longer posts on GN so why bring this up - unless there is something you know that the rest of us don’t?

many foreigners (not 'my')

Chewbacca ''Your apparent utter disdain for England, and English people, has become more and more apparent and I, for one, am becoming more and more offended by it.''

your prerogative. You have totally refused to see that I am so sorry about what is happening recently, with open racism becoming more prevalent and actually totally acceptable in some sections of the population. Because the UK was a beacon to the world re positive and open, tolerant multiculturalism. Above all overs- one reason my foreigners from other countries chose to live there - because of this. The very qualities of the UK - way above all its neighbours. And now being totally reversed. I am increasingly offended that you choose to distort what I am saying, and the reasons I am saying it- you and others.

someone who loved this country and devoted her working life to the people of this country
So I’m assuming that this person has been recognised publicly with an award for these selfless undertakings.

West Essex/East London accents are fine by me, though I can do a Devon accent too.

That is very strange, because when in my job I resettled families (not retired people) abroad, mainly in France, I never once heard anyone say they left the UK in despair of what was happening there. They relocated for a better quality of life, the weather, the cuisine and wine, less time at work, a big house with land and no mortgage etc. No one ever said everything about the UK was wrong and that they were desperate to leave. They just they wanted a change, a challenge and a new outlook on life.

Maybee it must be a case of ‘recollections may vary’ as I don’t remember a saintly poster who devoted her life to the people of this country. You are no doubt getting mixed up.

You could fill the Albert Hall with all the mentions of the word ‘despair’ on GN threads.

I like Essex accents ( and love London ones) also like Welsh accents , although the best accent to have is ( of course) a
Yorkshire one.

MissAdventure

I don't really relish seeing how others see Essex girls, to be honest.
It's not important to me to hear that people think I'm thick as two short planks, and common to boot. (With a foul accent)

I would hope people might form a more considered opinion. --or they may still think those are true of me and everyone else in Essex--

I'm ok
Everyone "loves a Welsh accent"

What they don't realise is how much it varies from place to place.
We're all one homogeneous mass, apparently.

MayBee70

I don’t seem to remember that previous poster pounding us with all that is wrong here. I just remember someone who loved this country and devoted her working life (as did her husband) to the people of this country and being in despair about some of the things that were happening. And being told it was none of her business because she was a foreigner. Even though one of the things she despaired of was the rise in racist crimes due to Farage et al.

I don’t seem to remember that previous poster pounding us with all that is wrong here. I just remember someone who loved this country and devoted her working life (as did her husband) to the people of this country and being in despair about some of the things that were happening

That amounts to the same thing, surely?