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RNLI and Farage

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Whitewavemark2 Thu 29-Jul-21 09:44:45

I am finding it difficult to get my brain around the concept, that there are people in this country who would rather let a world wide respected maritime organisation see people drown than save them.

I just hope that Farage criticising them for doing their job ensures that they have the best year yet from donations.

coastalgran Fri 30-Jul-21 10:41:24

These are probably the same people that want to eradicate parts of our history and tear down sculptures and rename streets and buildings. They are also the type of people who condemn the government without any real evidence to back up their silly claims. It will work against them and hopefully RNLI will have huge donations that will allow them to expand the excellent work that they do.

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 10:40:22

Whitewavemark2

Chestnut

There was another point made in the video. Lifeboat volunteers have to go to work and also run their own businesses. On the south coast they are being called out so much that it is becoming impossible to work, and as a result may be forced to stop their RNLI work.

Rubbish!

How rude. For your information it has happened.

crazygranny Fri 30-Jul-21 10:35:59

Farage would say anything to gain attention.

Froglady Fri 30-Jul-21 10:34:18

Though some people have let the RNLI know that they are stopping their donations because of them saving people! Words fail me.

Lucca Fri 30-Jul-21 10:28:01

love0c

Sad and indeed very worrying that there is this growing number of people who cry ' freedom for all'. Yet this freedom is on the proviso that you say and believe what they tell you! 'Freedom? unfortunately these people do not know the meaning of the word.

Meaning ? Sorry if I’m being thick but specifically what do you mean ?

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:25:22

Kali2

Actually, I can see it could be a problem- as much as I am disgusted with Farage and his supporters.

And that's why he said it. So thst people think its a problem. It's not a problem, it's something he said he would be worried about for himself.

Not a surprise- Farage isn't generally seen as altruistic.

Kali2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:22:10

Actually, I can see it could be a problem- as much as I am disgusted with Farage and his supporters.

Peasblossom Fri 30-Jul-21 10:15:31

Yes, I don’t know where you got that from Chestnut, but it simply isn’t true.

It just shows how easily exaggeration and misinformation spreads. And how people will use anything and anyone for their own political ends,

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:08:52

Chestnut

There was another point made in the video. Lifeboat volunteers have to go to work and also run their own businesses. On the south coast they are being called out so much that it is becoming impossible to work, and as a result may be forced to stop their RNLI work.

Rubbish!

Whitewavemark2 Fri 30-Jul-21 10:08:14

How heartened they must be feeling

“RNLI
@RNLI
This week, the #RNLIheroes are all of you. For your magnificent support. For your generous donations. For your kind words. It means the world to our lifesavers. Thank you.”

Chestnut Fri 30-Jul-21 10:07:19

There was another point made in the video. Lifeboat volunteers have to go to work and also run their own businesses. On the south coast they are being called out so much that it is becoming impossible to work, and as a result may be forced to stop their RNLI work.

lemongrove Fri 30-Jul-21 09:48:44

I think if they accept money from the government for lifeguards on the beach, perhaps they would/should for the many calls for assistance to go across the Channel to rescue migrants ( if happening on a regular basis.)Unless the RNLI doesn’t need the extra money of course.I wondered if any remuneration had been forthcoming for them for helping, knowing how much it must cost for every time the lifeboats are called out.

MoorlandMooner Fri 30-Jul-21 09:47:51

love0c

Sad and indeed very worrying that there is this growing number of people who cry ' freedom for all'. Yet this freedom is on the proviso that you say and believe what they tell you! 'Freedom? unfortunately these people do not know the meaning of the word.

We are all free. Nobody here is saying we are not.

Nigel Farage is free to speak. We are free to agree or disagree and to believe him or not.

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 09:46:45

I think everyone, including Farage, understands that the RNLI will save anyone who needs it. I also think most of us understand that Farage was trying to use a well respected British institution to twist the situation in the Channel around to make people think they were being taken advantage of. Well most saw through that piece of political manoeuvring. So now its changed a bit to suggest they are picking a fight with poor Nigel and that they are steaming into French waters to pick up anybody that the French decide they want to get rid of.

Peasblossom Fri 30-Jul-21 09:40:38

The RNLI does not accept any payment or donation from Government precisely because they do not want to be beholden to them and have to pay regard to any government directive or political prejudice.

The volunteers save lives at sea without judgement. And that includes any judgement of government whose policies may cause lives to be endangered.

For the first time they have asked for a one-off special payment to enable them to station lifeguards on our beaches, anticipating large numbers of people who simply don’t understand how the sea works.

But they wouldn’t accept it if it came with any kind of caveat as to who could be saved.

It doesn’t matter to the volunteers whether the person in danger is from Syria or the middle of England, whether they are in their multi-million pound yacht or the Asda inflatable, whether they’ve taken actions that they knew would put their lives at risk or whether they’ve just been unthinking, whether they’ve been duped by the unscrupulous or talked into something silly by their friends.

All that matters is that they have saved a life.

Farage shouldn’t have made them a political vehicle and neither should anyone else on this thread that really cares about them

GagaJo Fri 30-Jul-21 09:26:21

Farage is a political cockroach. Willing to feed on whatever rotten leftovers he can get to maintain his notoriety.

However, despite loathing the bloke, he has paradoxically done the RNLI a huge favour by inadvertantly encouraging thousands to make donations, to enable them to continue their valuable life saving of anyone in need on the seas.

The RNLI are rightfully blind when it comes to the nationality or ethnicity of those in need of their help and now Farage has helped them help even more people.

lemongrove Fri 30-Jul-21 09:22:13

It seems that posters are conflating different points about this subject.
I think we are all on the same page ( including Farage) about the marvellous work that the RLNI does, lifeboats manned by volunteers going out in all weather conditions to rescue people.
Then there is the point of should they have to do this, when the RN and coastguard staff ( all paid posts) should be shouldering this, ditto the French Navy and Coastguards.
All the RNLI men have jobs, which they have to leave and run to the boat when called.
Does the government give any material help ( cash) to the RNLI for continually helping?
The last point is another that we can all agree on, that awful people gather sometimes in groups to jeer at the lifeboatmen and any asylum seekers when they come ashore.
There is a valid point in discussing this issue without getting personal to other posters.

love0c Fri 30-Jul-21 09:21:06

Sad and indeed very worrying that there is this growing number of people who cry ' freedom for all'. Yet this freedom is on the proviso that you say and believe what they tell you! 'Freedom? unfortunately these people do not know the meaning of the word.

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 09:16:59

Friends, Romans, Countrymen, lend me your ears.
I come to praise the RNLI, not to attack them.

Well, a bit of a change around from the original, but you'll recall that Mark Antony meant exactly the opposite of what he was saying. Clever chap, that Shakespeare.

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 09:13:27

Cross post MaizieD!

Alegrias1 Fri 30-Jul-21 09:13:03

love0c

Clearly a lot of people on here who have 'heard' a completely different interview/report. I heard Farage praise the RNLI!

My post, 23:23 last night.

MaizieD Fri 30-Jul-21 09:11:57

love0c

Clearly a lot of people on here who have 'heard' a completely different interview/report. I heard Farage praise the RNLI!

You're being played. He's using the RNLI to cover his racist anti-immigration stance.

I refer you to Alegrias'* post yesterday 23.23

Lucca Fri 30-Jul-21 09:08:00

I’ll say it again. I watched the whole thing. I didn’t “hear” it from someone else.

love0c Fri 30-Jul-21 09:05:40

Clearly a lot of people on here who have 'heard' a completely different interview/report. I heard Farage praise the RNLI!

Lucca Fri 30-Jul-21 09:00:10

But sadly…