RNLI and Farage

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Bingo!!

railman

OK - I'm gonna be controversial now!

Could someone give an example of anything useful or beneficial to society that Mr Farage has done in public, or in a public office?

Anything, and any sphere of society, any examples??

Runs for cover

Brexit!! ??

GillT57

We just need the 'they are all wearing good quality clothes, lifejackets and have the latest i-phone and then I shall cry HOUSE! on the Farage Bingo game. Have any of his supporters asked why P Patel's parents were able to apply for and get residence and nationality as economic migrants? Her Father repaid this kindness by standing as a UKIP candidate a few years back.

Excellent Like the Patel reference

I was just thinking the same railman.

OK - I'm gonna be controversial now!

Could someone give an example of anything useful or beneficial to society that Mr Farage has done in public, or in a public office?

Anything, and any sphere of society, any examples??

Runs for cover

“ I think the people who don’t agree with you are doomed from the start. No point getting involved in these threads.”.

Are you in fact accusing me of aggressive posting ? Are you saying I should not post? That’s ok. After today I might not.

Maybe slightly obscure/off topic, but I love the phrase - "economic migrants".

Does that include the people who want to escape to the country from the dreadful city of London, or as "holiday homes", buy up property in the Lake District, Yorkshire Dales, the West Country, etc.

Are they "internal economic migrants"? They do seem to leave a lot of properties empty for many months of the year, forcing up prices that only those who arrive from those 'foreign parts of the country' can afford.

Lucca

May I just point out to those singling out myself Alegrias etc that I posted precisely twice before I was attacked and told my post was typical and that I hadn’t read /seen the Farage speech. I had.

I’m not sure that naming people in this way is in the spirit of GN, but there you go.

Yes I do not like Farage as a personality or his politics I admit that in the same way as many on here felt about Corbyn (I didn’t support him just by the by) and feel about Starmer. And the speech I listened to did nothing to improve my view.

We all name people all the time. If I hadn’t, no doubt one, or all of you would have said, “ is that post directed at me?”. I think the people who don’t agree with you are doomed from the start. No point getting involved in these threads.

Well said toad. ?

JenniferEccles

I listened to the clip which Chestnut posted earlier and I agree with everything Nigel Farage said.
How many of you who appear to be trying to outdo each other with your level of vitriol aimed at him actually bothered to listen to what he said?

He went to great lengths to repeatedly state how much respect he has for the RNLI, how he has been involved in fund raising for them and that he has personally donated to them.

He then quite correctly pointed out that picking up and dealing with the migrants trying to enter our country illegally is not the job of the RNLI but of Border Force, who as he stated should be towing the boats back to France.

This situation can’t be allowed to continue but people smuggling is an extremely lucrative business.

Why should Border Force tow the boats back to France?

Chestnut

There are some really screwed up people posting here!

Oh I agree

Sorry, that didn't fit in the thread where it should have! ?

There are some really screwed up people posting here!

I don’t like Farage either, but I agree with posters who are open minded about what he says, rather than it’s him saying it. It’s not about trusting what he says and does in this instance. He’s highlighted something that was already there. I for one, didn’t know anything about it, before this thread. So I looked at news bulletins, and there it is. For him not to be trusted, he’d have to be speculating this might happen. He’s not done that,so for all his faults listed by Whitewave, which I agree with by the way, this isn’t one of them.

Cymres1

My late mother in law would have been incensed, she received an honour for 45 years fundraising for the RNLI, even though landlocked in mid Cheshire. We were all well versed in the amazing work they do.
This insulting behaviour is a disgrace and I hope the people responsible are publicly shamed.
To our delight she is to be remembered on a lifeboat in Norfolk before long. She would have been thrilled to bits.

Oh how proud you must be!

May I just point out to those singling out myself Alegrias etc that I posted precisely twice before I was attacked and told my post was typical and that I hadn’t read /seen the Farage speech. I had.

I’m not sure that naming people in this way is in the spirit of GN, but there you go.

Yes I do not like Farage as a personality or his politics I admit that in the same way as many on here felt about Corbyn (I didn’t support him just by the by) and feel about Starmer. And the speech I listened to did nothing to improve my view.

My late mother in law would have been incensed, she received an honour for 45 years fundraising for the RNLI, even though landlocked in mid Cheshire. We were all well versed in the amazing work they do.
This insulting behaviour is a disgrace and I hope the people responsible are publicly shamed.
To our delight she is to be remembered on a lifeboat in Norfolk before long. She would have been thrilled to bits.

We just need the 'they are all wearing good quality clothes, lifejackets and have the latest i-phone and then I shall cry HOUSE! on the Farage Bingo game. Have any of his supporters asked why P Patel's parents were able to apply for and get residence and nationality as economic migrants? Her Father repaid this kindness by standing as a UKIP candidate a few years back.

Opposed!

Do I have an opinion about Farage that means that my views are biased?

Well, yes I think you can say exactly that, but no different to how I feel about other fascists.

A look at his history will tell you everything as to why I distrust everything he says and does.

His facist ideology was formed as a child, and he has never deviated from this throughout his adult life.

He was well known at school for his facist outlook, the headmaster queried whether his promotion to prefect was appropriate given his views and his encouragement of fellow CCPs to sing Hitler youth songs when marching.

UKIP was a far right political party, which was anti-immigration.

As an MEP, he boasted that he took over £2million in tax payers money and a salary of £64000, for which he did nothing, largely failing to attend the Parliament.

His racist remarks are well known including that he thought many Muslim immigrants were coming here to take us over.
He also supports Powell’s “rivers of blood” speech.
He said he feels uncomfortable sitting near people who spoke a different language.
He would be concerned if Romanian immigrant moved next door.
He blamed immigrants for a late attendance at an event he was at saying that the M4 is not as navigable as it used to be.
People with HIV should be banned from immigration.
He announced that women who leave work to have a child and then return to work are worth less than if they had remained at work. He also questions the use of maternity leave.
He considers Putin a brilliant operator particularly in Syria.
He defended a UKIP candidate for racist remarks against the Chinese.
We then were subjected to the anti-immigration poster entitled a”breaking point”
He boasted that Brexit had happened “without an bullet being fired” a couple of days after aJoe Cox was killed.

He supports Trump and described Obama as a loathsome creature
He has close links to Bannon.
He has anti-Semitic views
He described climate change as a scam.

His politics are diametrically apposed to everything I believe.

That and much else is why I entirely distrust everything Farage says, rather like I would have distrusted everything Hitler said.

He makes my flesh crawl. Everything about him disgusts me. If he’s on the tv I have to leave the room.

I've thought for a long time that Farage is the most successful UK politician of the 21st Century. He's pretty much got what he wanted, hasn't he?

You're all being played, and you don't see it. There is legitimate concern about what's happening in the Channel, but not what you think.

If you think I'm talking down to you, tough. Just call me Cassandra.

Chestnut

Thank you 25Avalon. You have actually taken time to listen to the point being made instead of frothing about some perceived injustice. As far as I can see it is you and other previous posters who are being disingenuous WWM2, throwing missiles without establishing whether the target is actually the enemy at all. My comment was quite sincere.

Well said Chestnut & Avalon

I do wish people would read everything through before rushing to reply.

Alegrias1 "I think you just see certain people, and then ‘ have a go’. Do you? You mean like you seeing "WWM, Alegrias, Lucca" , and assuming we are all stupid enough to criticise an ex-politician with an axe to grind without listening to what he said?"

I think Discodancer is fully justified. I posted the MailOnline as they had made similar concerns as Nigel Farage - but this has been ignored and I am left feeling this thread has been set up as a 'rant at Farage' posted by WWM2 and picked up by a small group of familiar names. (I think varians initial post highlights this)

This is a difficult situation. No-one wants peoples lives put at risk - refugee or otherwise - and haven't read anyone who is criticising the RNLI but there is legitimate concern over what is happening in the Channel. If people traffickers are abusing our RNLI then Nigel Farage is right to call on the UK and French Governments to step in.

Alegrias1

DiscoDancer1975

Can I just ask, so really directed at WWM, Alegrias, Lucca, and a few others I’m sure. Is it Farage you object to? Or what he said? So if Kier Starmer had said it, would you agree?

Don’t get me wrong, Farage is a ‘ weasel faced arse’. To quote a popular tv series, but I agree with what he said. How can you not?

The RNLI is a voluntary group of people, putting their lives at risk. Whilst I feel very sad at the plight of people around the world, and would love to scoop them all up, and bring them here, it’s not possible.

I think you just see certain people, and then ‘ have a go’. Regardless of what they say. You should be careful doing this. You might miss something that would really have benefited you.

I object to anyone trying to use the RNLI or any other well-respected charitable institution to further their own nasty little xenophobic idea of politics. How can I not agree with it? Becuase its all lies.

I can't answer the Starmer question, because he would never have said it, would he? Wondering why you chose Starmer, but I'll leave that up to people who can actually make sensible evaluations of things.

I think you just see certain people, and then ‘ have a go’. Do you? You mean like you seeing "WWM, Alegrias, Lucca" , and assuming we are all stupid enough to criticise an ex-politician with an axe to grind without listening to what he said?

Pot, kettle.

it’s all lies. Is it? Ok, I’ll take your word for that.
because he never would have said it wouldn’t he? Ok, I’ll take your word for that too!
You are the one who talks down to people Alegrias. Is that because we’re all stupid? Or perhaps just don’t agree with you.
You seem to be fixated on Xenophobia. Seen you mention it a few times. Not nice to accuse people of being that.