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Boris Johnson and his metaphorical fridge

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Alegrias1 Tue 03-Aug-21 19:53:29

Johnson is coming to Scotland later this week.

He can't even be arsed bothered to meet the woman running the show.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-58079390

He's not just a buffoon, he's a rude, disrespectful buffoon.

Or is it just me who thinks that? I expect he's too busy, learning how to use an umbrella, or something like that.

Whatdayisit Thu 05-Aug-21 08:12:03

I was privileged to be taken to Scotland on holiday as a child a number of times by my grandparents and we learnt quite a bit of 'tourist history'.
A lot of people know very little about English history these days as well as being ignorant about Scottish history - as pp has already said.
I would rather be driving up the A9 than down the M1. I like Nicola Sturgeon. She seems a confident leader. Not perfect but as we found out with Mr Blair who is! I don't know why so many dislike her.

Esspee Wed 04-Aug-21 23:06:06

The PM has shown disrespect to the Scottish people by ignoring the fact he is going to visit another country and should officially notify the First Minister. He is simply pushing more people into the independence camp.
I can quite understand why he would avoid a meeting with the First Minister. He must feel inferior in her presence. Playing the bumbling buffoon contrasts poorly when compared to an astute and able politician such as Ms.Sturgeon.

GillT57 Wed 04-Aug-21 22:44:13

Alegrias1

It seems I'm a Meghan admirer, a Sturgeon lover and a Boris hater.

The things you learn about yourself on Gransnet, its an education. smile

Don't forget being a member of the loony left, and a Corbyn fan

Elleee Wed 04-Aug-21 21:10:54

Douglas Ross has quite the job on his hands doesn't he?
Rishi Sunack's latest podcast from Scotland, at one point, had fourteen listeners, mostly bored journalists
Hopefully England will soon learn to be as canny as the Scots
To answer the OP, Johnson's manners, sense of occasion, decency and diplomacy are appalling

Alegrias1 Wed 04-Aug-21 20:52:44

It seems I'm a Meghan admirer, a Sturgeon lover and a Boris hater.

The things you learn about yourself on Gransnet, its an education. smile

Parsley3 Wed 04-Aug-21 20:41:20

Lincslass you are funny.?

Lincslass Wed 04-Aug-21 20:35:44

Wheniwasyourage

No point, Kali2. There are none so blind as those who cannot see past the "wonderful" Mr Johnson! grin

There are non so blind that can’t see beyond the manipulations of Sturgeon. . Dreadful woman, full of hate for the English people. She is an obsessive , and has only one obsession, to break up the UK. On that note I will leave you Sturgeon lovers, to admire on your own.

nexus63 Wed 04-Aug-21 20:25:52

maybe bj wants a part in one of the movies filming in glasgow, as for not meeting our first minister, i find that very rude but i suppose nippy nicola will be glad she does not have to bother with him, she has done a much better job during covid than he has.

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 20:20:14

hmmmmmmmmmmm

GillT57 Wed 04-Aug-21 20:13:05

I am fairly indifferent as to whether or not Johnson has a scene with NS while he is visiting Scotland, but when it was claimed that no such invitation had been extended,both DH and I shouted 'liar!'. Sad state of affairs really when the immediate assumption is that he is lying. Can't think why

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 19:27:47

Refusing to meet up with NS will play right in her hands, and calls for Independence.

BlueBelle Wed 04-Aug-21 18:03:17

I think Nicola Sturgeon is a good strong leader
I d prefer her to Johnson twit any day

MaizieD Wed 04-Aug-21 17:40:45

that there is often no concept of how Scotland was and is a separate country, with its own history and culture.

If it's any consolation I think that a lot of English don't have much idea even of English history and culture. History is for nerds..

I don't understand why anyone should be snobbish about the Scots. Scotland has nurtured many great men (probably some great women, too, but not so well known). Wasn't Edinburgh known at one time as the 'Athens of the North'?

In fact, why should the English be snobbish about any other nation in Great Britain?

I can't see anything particularly wrong with Nicola Sturgeon, either.

Alegrias1 Wed 04-Aug-21 17:27:57

DH is a part-time tour guide, in a place that has a lot of history associated with it. He is constantly coming home with tales about how his clients have no idea whatsoever about Scottish history and think we were living in mud huts until about 1842 wink I do think that's part of the problem, that there is often no concept of how Scotland was and is a separate country, with its own history and culture.

Lucca Wed 04-Aug-21 17:17:34

It’s anti Scottish snobbery. I know, my mother had that attitude !

JaneJudge Wed 04-Aug-21 16:56:20

Don't worry I knew what you meant, though I'm baffled by it as her voice/style of speaking is normal confused

JRM most probably thinks the Soda King runs all the food banks he is so fond of wink

Lucca Wed 04-Aug-21 16:50:15

Lucca

JaneJudge

At the risk of opening a can of worms, I don't understand why people dislike Nicola Sturgeon. She is a very strong woman who seems to act with integrity and stands up for what she believes in and unlike our Prime minister, she doesn't waiver. One of my friends really dislikes her and when I questioned her about it, she said she didn't like her 'keep going on about Scotland' grin grin which to me seemed a pretty 'English' response (though my friend is actually Italian so...)

It’s pure and simple snobbishness. They don’t like the way she speaks One poster actually admits it
and that’s apparently acceptable but anyone who criticises JRM’s affected way of soda king gets accused if inverted snobbery,

Soda king ???. Talking.

AGAA4 Wed 04-Aug-21 15:35:50

I may be wrong but it seems to me that BJ has little time or respect for the devolved nations or for the north of England so it doesn't surprise me that he is not meeting Nicola Sturgeon

Whitewavemark2 Wed 04-Aug-21 14:56:54

Mogg’s affectation is just that. There is no one else in the U.K. that affects such a strange accent.

Even the poshest.

Lucca Wed 04-Aug-21 14:54:39

JaneJudge

At the risk of opening a can of worms, I don't understand why people dislike Nicola Sturgeon. She is a very strong woman who seems to act with integrity and stands up for what she believes in and unlike our Prime minister, she doesn't waiver. One of my friends really dislikes her and when I questioned her about it, she said she didn't like her 'keep going on about Scotland' grin grin which to me seemed a pretty 'English' response (though my friend is actually Italian so...)

It’s pure and simple snobbishness. They don’t like the way she speaks One poster actually admits it
and that’s apparently acceptable but anyone who criticises JRM’s affected way of soda king gets accused if inverted snobbery,

Grandmabatty Wed 04-Aug-21 14:47:11

I'm not an SNP fan and I can see flaws in the Scottish government, however I think it's rude of Johnson to ignore the person in charge of the Scottish government when he is coming to this country. Perhaps he wouldn't have needed an invite if a meeting had been organised by his staff when the visit was suggested.

JaneJudge Wed 04-Aug-21 14:04:28

At the risk of opening a can of worms, I don't understand why people dislike Nicola Sturgeon. She is a very strong woman who seems to act with integrity and stands up for what she believes in and unlike our Prime minister, she doesn't waiver. One of my friends really dislikes her and when I questioned her about it, she said she didn't like her 'keep going on about Scotland' grin grin which to me seemed a pretty 'English' response (though my friend is actually Italian so...)

Alegrias1 Wed 04-Aug-21 13:59:30

I don't think there is anybody in Scotland who isn't aware that Nicola knows she can make political capital out of this. On an official visit, (as opposed to holidays) you might think that a Head of Government might want to check in with his/her opposite number, even to say that their agenda is packed so they can't meet up. But some Heads of Government have the political nous of a banana and don't bother with the niceties. Then their followers are surprised when they get called out for it.

rosie1959 Wed 04-Aug-21 13:30:26

Kali2

Oh, her voice, I see.

Yes, this is what I really really want from a PM- a good voice, that will do.

Hmm totally ignoring my first point about timing
She very unlikely to be PM so that won’t be a worry

Kali2 Wed 04-Aug-21 13:25:59

Oh, her voice, I see.

Yes, this is what I really really want from a PM- a good voice, that will do.