A dreadful backward step

MayBee70

Someone told me years ago that many Americans are very dependent on the church due to lack of social care, and it’s the churches that provide it. On the American Facebook pages I’m on people are always going on about the power of prayer to solve just about everything.

I find a lot of praying is asked for in the sewing/embroidery community FB pages.

I often wonder why people in this country think our culture is anything like the American one.

I suppose I tend to think of America as a country rather than a vast continent.

When you venture away from Disney, Vegas, New York etc then you see a very different USA, small Town America is quite insular, then there are the trailer parks and poor Country folk who in the majority have a low level of literacy. The local Churches are very involved with these Communities and unfortunately not always for the better of the population.

It is as always the poorest and less educated girls/women who will suffer, and as the OP’s article says more states are considering bringing in the same law…

Many do, MayBee but the difference between the states is as great as the difference between countries in Europe - if not greater. They also govern as states which means you cannot see them as a whole on things like this. I have one family members living in Alabama and two others in North Virginia. They really couldn't be more different - including the climate.

I think you find the church involvement varies across the country too GrannyGravy. In the Bible Belt it is very much the linchpin of community but not so much further north. It's so much younger than the UK too. So much less history to influence them (or warn them).

Of course, I am sure everyone is aware that adoption is a very costly business in the US. Pushed into keeping the pregnancy, many of the women, who cannot afford the hospital costs or to keep the child, will use this route out.

Red cloaks and bonnets come to mind.

I don’t know if religion has something to do with this but it wouldn’t surprise me. Religion causes more strife in this world than anything else. I feel sorry for anyone forced into doing something they’re not happy with.

I’ve heard of women aborting because the baby would ruin their holiday plans. I suspect this is n urban myth. Abortion is an emotive subject of course, and I am very uncomfortable with the 24 week limit as babies can survive at 22 weeks.. We witness smug, rich, white Republican women voting for this law, and loud, shouty women screaming about abortion on demand as seen on the news last night. Both sides of the argument have too much to say for themselves, will never listen to the other side, and meanwhile, what Texas has in fact done, is make SAFE abortion illegal.

I have worked with women who have had abortions, they seemed desperate and I supported them (worked in HR). I worked with one woman who had an abortion because they were going to have a loan to have a sunlounge built but wouldn't be able to afford it if she had to take maternity leave. I'm sorry but I found that really sad.

Fridayschild

I don’t know if religion has something to do with this but it wouldn’t surprise me. Religion causes more strife in this world than anything else. I feel sorry for anyone forced into doing something they’re not happy with.

The being forced into doing something goes both ways. I was pregnant at 17, my doctor put lots of pressure on me to abort as did my mother. I'm glad I was able to stand up to them.

PippaZ

I wonder what they will call the new department running this. The one processing the payments to those who accuse and take women, and any man the "informer" believes has helped, to court. The Stasi and The Eyes have been taken. I wonder what they will come up with?

I read that the woman getting the abortion won't face any consequences, it is the people arranging/doing the abortions or supporting the woman who can sued.

This seems scary to me but I haven't heard anything about it in the British press. A Missouri law that took effect last week allows citizens to sue local law enforcement agencies whose officers knowingly enforce any federal gun laws. Police and sheriff’s departments can face fines of up to $50,000 per occurrence. The law was backed by Republicans who fear Democratic President Joe Biden’s administration could enact restrictive gun policies.

I can't quite get my head round a law enforcement officer being fined 50,000 for enforcing the law!

The promise of a reward for informing on someone brings to mind a political party whose leader had a little black moustach and whose members wore brown shirts

Someone had to do it didn't they.

PippaZ

Someone had to do it didn't they.

So very true PippaZ