Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

Well, the government won't have the reserve of fuel but they will be collecting the huge amount of tax charged on it.

travelsafar

I do wonder if the government had a huge reserve of fuel that it needed to get rid of to make way for the new E10 fuel. Something that popped into my head yesterday. I may be totally wrong... but here goes. Due to lockdown any reserves were not being used as people not travelling. When i googled about 'use by dates' for petrol it has roughly 6months then something happens to it and it can turn slimy apparently. Creating a panic situation has probably used up most of the reserves and now fresh E10 fuel can be ordered and delivered to petrol stations meaning we are all being more enviromentally friendly and paying more for our fuel.

Oh, interesting!!

Alegrias1

I thought it was very clear indeed GG13.

But no more comments on this from me.

No problem

Urmstongran

Oh Lucca My son works from home, my nephew works from home, so are they “off work”. Honestly I’ve heard it all now.

That’s just disingenuous!

Our daughter’s partner works from home (since April last year). He’s a graphic designer. Some jobs can be done from home (natch). But the DVLA are working from home in Wales, some are on strike and licences are not being issued.

Can you spot the difference here?

Yes. The difference, if what you say is true, is that that some are on strike. It's nothing to do with where employees are working. Those who are working are working from wherever they are. It could be in the office or at home from the information you have given. Unless you have missed some important fact, your attack on home working is irrelevant in this instance.

I thought it was very clear indeed GG13.

But no more comments on this from me.

Alegrias1 it was not clear to whom growstuff was intending her remarks for though?

THERE IS NO FUEL ANYWHERE
I am actually going to cry. I did what the government told me to do and now none of us have any bloody FUEL

GrannyGravy13

growstuff your post of 20.46.16 was extremely insulting, whether it was directed to me or Urmstongran.

I am beginning to notice that when posters (any) resort to insulting the poster as opposed to discussing the post it is usually a sign of not having anything constructive to add.

It was true though.

I knew exactly who/what growstuff meant.

Make inflammatory and inaccurate statements day after day, and its going to get pointed out.

growstuff your post of 20.46.16 was extremely insulting, whether it was directed to me or Urmstongran.

I am beginning to notice that when posters (any) resort to insulting the poster as opposed to discussing the post it is usually a sign of not having anything constructive to add.

Would you mind if I share your thoughts anonymously and ask a few friends?

wow- interesting. Is there someone with close ties to the trade who could look into this?

I do wonder if the government had a huge reserve of fuel that it needed to get rid of to make way for the new E10 fuel. Something that popped into my head yesterday. I may be totally wrong... but here goes. Due to lockdown any reserves were not being used as people not travelling. When i googled about 'use by dates' for petrol it has roughly 6months then something happens to it and it can turn slimy apparently. Creating a panic situation has probably used up most of the reserves and now fresh E10 fuel can be ordered and delivered to petrol stations meaning we are all being more enviromentally friendly and paying more for our fuel.

I thought this thread was about petrol queues?
Wonder why there are no petrol queues in France, Spain, Ireland etc?

I said ‘Labour hates Britain’ because they hate the majority in Britain as they are the ones who don’t vote for them (most people) and their nonsense.

Well most people in Britain don't vote for Tories and their nonsense either. So do the Tories hate Britain? Oh, and the Lib Dems. Seething with hate, they are ?

What absolutely dangerous, divisive rubbish.

Lucca

GrannyGravy13

I am all for working from home where it is suitable for both employers and employees.

I am not for people being coerced into trying to work from home in inadequate circumstances which then impacts on family life and the mental health of the employees.

I absolutely agree. It doesn’t work for everyone but I didn’t like how Urmstingran said people weren’t working from home they were “off work”.

A bit like when she said the Labour Party hate Britain …..

That poster doesn't always use vocabulary accurately or appropriately, but a phrase was used in a red top, so it was handy.

MerylStreep

GrannyGravy
It took my friend 6 weeks to get her own office chair ( from her own office in the council building) by which time she was in agony.
We offered to get it for her but: computer says NO!!!
It had to be a council worker removing the chair.
So they had a senior housing officer who couldn’t do her job properly for 6 weeks and longer because of jobsworth.

And this senior housing officer couldn't afford an office chair until one arrived? Couldn't she have bought one with the money she was saving from commuting? Pull the other one!

Urmstongran I honestly don't know where your claims come from.

I have only ever voted Labour once in my life, but I don't feel that Labour "hates" me because they've not had my vote. You live in a strange world if you think most political parties (apart from the extremists) hate anybody.

You seem to have fallen down some very big rabbit hole of myths.

PippaZ

GrannyGravy13

It’s all well and good for people to work from home, but they do need an office, peace and quiet along with an appropriate chair and desk, secure/strong enough WiFi and a computer, printer, scanner etc.

I do know some folks who have been working in their bedrooms, juggling laptop and paper on their beds, also people trying to work in their sitting rooms on coffee tables and at their kitchen worktops.

Not everyone lives in a large enough home and is able to or can afford to have a dedicated home office. People living in small flats with children, people still living at home with their parents, etc will not have the same facilities.

It will be a mixture GrannyGravy. Younger people may well be happier in an office for a period of time, and their companies may want to have them there. Customer-facing roles may have to be "live", but even some of those - Estate Agent, Psychiatrist and others - may be a mixture of online and live.

The thing that will not happen is that people working from home not working. No employer can afford that to happen for long and it is an incredibly naive suggestion that this is the case.

Both my daughter and her partner have worked from home since the start of the pandemic and have been told they won't need to return until the New Year. They know that they are lucky in that they have the space for both to have a separate office.

My daughter is an HR Manager in a large organisation, so has been at the front line in decisions about working from home. Some people in her company expressed a preference to work in the office, but they were in the minority. She has had to make sure that everybody has what they need to work in the location they have chosen. There are currently discussions about the long-term future. All the discussions are taking place online.

I used to work from home before I retired, flex between office, kitchen and site, loved it. I got more done, worked late at home if necessary, but got time off in lieu, no special kit other than laptop and mobile.
Fuel prices are rising in Françe at the pump and domestic fuel rose over 12% during August, I can’t speak for the rest of Europe.
We don’t have 90% of the fuel garages shut here in the south of Hampshire Whitewavemark2, there is fuel and of course some are shut and it’s not satisfactory by any means.

PippaZ we still have one staff member working from home, they come into the office for two consecutive days every 5-6 weeks , it’s working at the moment.

(We purchased a lap top, pay for secure WiFi, desk and chair etc)

I said ‘Labour hates Britain’ because they hate the majority in Britain.
There you go again accusing Labour (the party ? Supporters ?) of “hating”.
It’s not acceptable.

GrannyGravy13

It’s all well and good for people to work from home, but they do need an office, peace and quiet along with an appropriate chair and desk, secure/strong enough WiFi and a computer, printer, scanner etc.

I do know some folks who have been working in their bedrooms, juggling laptop and paper on their beds, also people trying to work in their sitting rooms on coffee tables and at their kitchen worktops.

Not everyone lives in a large enough home and is able to or can afford to have a dedicated home office. People living in small flats with children, people still living at home with their parents, etc will not have the same facilities.

It will be a mixture GrannyGravy. Younger people may well be happier in an office for a period of time, and their companies may want to have them there. Customer-facing roles may have to be "live", but even some of those - Estate Agent, Psychiatrist and others - may be a mixture of online and live.

The thing that will not happen is that people working from home not working. No employer can afford that to happen for long and it is an incredibly naive suggestion that this is the case.

Ooh, I’m coming in for some stick on here!

I said ‘Labour hates Britain’ because they hate the majority in Britain as they are the ones who don’t vote for them (most people) and their nonsense. Too much wokery, too much in the way of wonky ideas, too much ‘identity’ and labelling of people, their anti-Semitism, their continual in-fighting. Put your hand up if you’re a white male and would like to be heard. You may have to wait a while if you’re happy with your gender, have a job and don’t claim benefits. Unless you do, they’re not interested.

As for the other darts being thrown at me - I did say at home and not working. I meant the DVLA. Not issuing drivers licences. It’s a joke! If WFH means a department isn’t operating at full capacity as it would in the office, what’s the point to it? The DVLA now have a huge backlog to clear.

I did also say that a member of our family has been WFH for 16 months. He is a graphic designer and it works for his company. But one size doesn’t fit all. I most certainly wasn’t inferring that ALL who WFH have gone AWOL. But let’s be honest, a lot of things aren’t being done thoroughly and we all know it.

I took the car out to walk the dog and hopefully get petrol.

The Queue into sainsbury car park for petrol. I parked up and walked him in the attached footpath when we got back petrol station closed - bum.

Just filled up at Tesco’s. Had a food delivery and the delivery guy said they were getting petrol and if we went early afternoon there wouldn’t be a queue. So relieved as I never run the car low having had dirt in the engine years ago. As with a lot of things Tesco’s seem to be on the ball because it’s ran by someone with foresight. I was actually shaking as I don’t get out much these days and I was terrified that I’d put the wrong petrol in or something stupid like that.