Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

growstuff

*Perhaps more people should use public transport. It would be far better for the environment.*

Great idea, if your area has any!

I do realise that many do not have access to a good public transport service and access to a car is a necessity. Those that do need to make more use of it and mask up to protect others.

We seem severely lacking in common sense, exacerbating an already ongoing difficulty.

IMO, it’s selfish in the extreme to use private transport if there is an alternative. It goes to show how many people are wedded to their car and finding limitations so problematic.

Of course, the government could choose to govern and ration fuel supplies. Everyone would be up in arms about that but at least people would have some access to fuel.

It would seem that a few posters are doing their best to add to the panic by the comments on these pages.That’s how it spreads, by doom laden posts on social media.Sometimes by people with anti- government agendas, or simple panicking for no reason.
The petrol queues wouldn’t have happened without media and social media hyping it all up in the first place.

Whitewavemark2

As Richard Murphy would say, unfortunately the market is not working as the Tories expect.

It’s a free market economy! Let the market decide! I thought this was exactly what the government should expect. Absolute chaos! My tongue very firmly in cheek.

I don't think we can dismiss everyone at a petrol station as a selfish panic buyer, although some undoubtedly are. Many people cannot afford to fill their car right up with a tank full, ours would cost in excess of £80 if we did that. Many people have to pop in and top up £20 at a time.

ayse

Whitewavemark2

As Richard Murphy would say, unfortunately the market is not working as the Tories expect.

It’s a free market economy! Let the market decide! I thought this was exactly what the government should expect. Absolute chaos! My tongue very firmly in cheek.

?. I suppose this assumption is what informs their actions.

My son filled his range rover yesterday and got accosted by a lady saying he was selfish and to only put ,£20 in He is a self employed architect going out on site think he is at Heathrow this week he advised her politely that he needed to work and, £20 wouldn't do it for a couple of hundred mile trip

All the petrol stations are open along the A1 again today, the price has gone up though I noticed!

DH is taking the car out to walk the dog and see if the petrol station is open. He can’t do more than one station as we will be running on fumes soon.

That made me laugh - perhaps he could walk the dog without taking the car ?

Our daughter has a Range Rover, so has left it at home and taken her husbands smaller car to work instead.

Kali2

Our daughter has a Range Rover, so has left it at home and taken her husbands smaller car to work instead.

Good !! Far too many 4x4. Vehicles around.

I'm so disappointed in all the local morons panicking over petrol and clogging up the roads. The vast majority don't even need their cars - but are making things intolerable for those that do.

Here in London we have excellent public transport, plenty of cabs, an endless choice of home deliveries - yet, suddenly, everyone wanted to top up at the weekend. Panic buying indeed.

Lucca you have no idea why folks need a 4 X 4

Kali2

That made me laugh - perhaps he could walk the dog without taking the car ?

? he does usually but thought he’d combine the two.

I doubt he’ll be lucky tbh so the car will have to remain not used until the situation improves as we will not have enough to get to the petrol station otherwise.

I filled up this morning.
Re comments about private transport, I have had my car for 10 years and clocked up 45,000 miles !
I walk when I can. I take the train if practical, but sadly I’ve seen on buses and trains most people (in England, not Scotland ) have abandoned mask wearing.

GrannyGravy13

Lucca you have no idea why folks need a 4 X 4

True but where I live I can honestly tell you the majority of them are driven by yummy mummies to drop the children ten feet from school and then to the gym or to park badly in Waitrose car park. It is a status symbol.

My BIL has one but was a farmer and they are often snowbound.

Today 10:05 GrannyGravy13

Lucca you have no idea why folks need a 4 X 4

Unfortunately they have become status symbols. Townies don’t need 4x4’s. They are petrol guzzlers, clogging up the roads, taking over more than one parking space and driven increasingly by arrogant twerps. The people that I know that drive them are either farmers or horse owners that live in rural areas.

DD has one. Thank goodness they are farmers and live in a very rural areas (some roads unmetalled) or else I wouldn't have dared post that.

tickingbird whilst I agree in part, one of our cars is a very large 4 x 4 we do tow horse trailers, and have a large family which often necessitates us using all 7 seats.

If you have two or three children in need of a car seat you will need a bigger car as for safety reasons baby/toddler car seats have got much bigger.

(I have a smaller car with an eco engine which is used whenever possible)

There are an increasing number of people who move to the country here (from London usually) and move into their rural home and then gate it all off like they are in an urban environment with big massive safety lights and the drive is aligned with blacked out windowed massive 4x4's of various varieties and they drive up and down the country roads far too fast.

I have a very old 4x4

rosie1959

My son filled his range rover yesterday and got accosted by a lady saying he was selfish and to only put ,£20 in He is a self employed architect going out on site think he is at Heathrow this week he advised her politely that he needed to work and, £20 wouldn't do it for a couple of hundred mile trip

It's such a cheek isn't it, people who think they can decide who needs petrol and who doesn't. You can't tell by looking at people and if the petrol is there he is entitled to buy it. Good for him telling her and nice he was polite.

DH back - no luck. Car will now sit.

Just having coffee and discussing cutting down autumn stuff in garden and decided to take it all to the tip ourselves as nothing is being collected

Then the light came on???

So now we have no petrol and rubbish piling up around us.

Dear oh dear.

Rosie51

A lot of ambulances do not have a dedicated fuel supply, they get petrol from the same places as you and me. If ambulances are off the road because of empty fuel tanks I do hope people will understand it was totally justified because someone needed a full tank in order to go to work, or shop, or have their vehicle sit with a full tank of petrol....... one ambulance crew posted yesterday (with photos) of how they had to go to 5 petrol stations before they could refuel.

Well the people who drive the ambulances need to get to work as well so they might have been some of the panic buyers buying petrol at the weekend. Of course when you get to hospital in the ambulance you will probably hope that the nurses, doctors, radiographers etc managed to get into work so they might have been panic buyers as well.

It is quite a complicated system. I remember my husband being a police officer when there were petrol shortages in the 70s, I think he was a DS at the time. Local garages were giving priority to police vehicles but little use for him getting into work at 6 am in his own car, he'd been posted to the opposite side of the county and no hope of public transport. It was a nightmare.

Whitewavemark2

DH back - no luck. Car will now sit.

Just having coffee and discussing cutting down autumn stuff in garden and decided to take it all to the tip ourselves as nothing is being collected

Then the light came on???

Are you saying that your household /garden waste is not being collected?

I would be ringing/emailing council offices repeatedly in your situation. What is their reasons for cancellation? Have all your bin men suddenly left, are they all isolating?