Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

Dinahmo

Sounds s though taking the rail networks back into public ownership would be a good idea. Then wee wouldn't be paying all those profits to the foreign owners (generally foreign states).

Perhaps that's why rail travel in the EU is much cheaper than in the UK - their rail networks are partly funded by the the UK.

Richard Trevithick 1804 the first steam locomotive, would be turning in his grave at the selling of our national railway system. Think they should all be renationalised, and owned by the country.

DH managed to buy £20 of diesel on Wednesday morning so we are all set and it will last us for a while. We were nearly on empty so as long as we’ve got enough for emergencies I’m happy. Fortunately I mainly use public transport except buying a heavy shop, like today.

Still closed garages down here in S Hants, local network will txt as tomorrow as delivery imminent.

Sounds s though taking the rail networks back into public ownership would be a good idea. Then wee wouldn't be paying all those profits to the foreign owners (generally foreign states).

Perhaps that's why rail travel in the EU is much cheaper than in the UK - their rail networks are partly funded by the the UK.

Will Hutton
@williamnhutton
·
22h
Drove across France today. Every petrol station open. No queues. Drive into London. Only one petrol station open with huge queue. France is in the EU single market with free movement. We’re not. Anybody who argues our fuel crisis is nothing to do with Brexit is a fool and a knave

growstuff

Calendargirl

Haven’t read all the comments, so hope I’m not repeating but it seems to me;

Where ignorance is bliss,….,

regarding the whole situation.

If nothing had been leaked, I really don’t think things would have been so bad.

And how the heck would you have stopped people from gossiping?

I wasn't the only person who had difficulties finding fuel last week. I hadn't a clue why three petrol stations were empty, but was curious. It wasn't until I went online and saw that other people were having problems and asking the same questions that I realised something was wrong. It was only then that the news broke that there were delivery issues.

That is our experience too, Growstuff, except that we started experiencing problems (diesel) from 13th Sept!

How much more evidence do we need of the devasting effects of brexit compounded by the useless, corrupt and incompetent government????

MerylStreep

I would have liked a bit more sun in Thorpe Bay today. But you can’t have everything ?

I am about to leave for dinner at Thorpe Bay (The Ro**yn) the sky is very blue ?

I would have liked a bit more sun in Thorpe Bay today. But you can’t have everything ?

Growstuff I would be scared to take any jerry cans just to store in the boot and I can imagine that those that do it are subject to abuse from others. All I want is to find somewhere open refill a bit and then keep away from petrol stations until this starts to ease. Looks like it could be taxis for me next week if I want to go anywhere.

There are no shortages anywhere are there all the cars on drives have got full tanks nobody is driving around looking
to fill up anywhere and joe public are making mountains out of molehills luckily I have been emptying contents of my freezer and getting rid of food all I want when I finally get to the supermarket is to find a load of empty shelves that will be the cherry on the cake.

Calendargirl

Haven’t read all the comments, so hope I’m not repeating but it seems to me;

Where ignorance is bliss,….,

regarding the whole situation.

If nothing had been leaked, I really don’t think things would have been so bad.

And how the heck would you have stopped people from gossiping?

I wasn't the only person who had difficulties finding fuel last week. I hadn't a clue why three petrol stations were empty, but was curious. It wasn't until I went online and saw that other people were having problems and asking the same questions that I realised something was wrong. It was only then that the news broke that there were delivery issues.

And somebody will be along to accuse you of panic buying!

I sympathise. Fortunately, I was able to fill up first thing on Thursday morning and I haven't needed to go to many places, so I'll be OK for another couple of weeks.

However, I've read on my local Facebook groups of the difficulties people are experiencing. Many of them are carers, nurses or teachers and need to get to work.

One lady couldn't find any petrol, so went home. She was hoping to transfer some petrol from her husband's car for another trip to find petrol, but he was empty too. They went online and found a petrol station with fuel and asked a neighbour to go there and fill up a jerry can. Apparently, the neighbour was subject to all sorts of abuse and accused of panic buying.

But there aren't any shortages, are there?

I would like many of you posters saying how the petrol situation is fine where you live at least tell us where that is.
I am in south east and since last Thursday have seen the problems start. On Friday last week every petrol station had queues. Monday I went to the chemist to get a prescription and as I passed the local petrol station for the first time in a week it had several pumps open so I quickly went in suddenly remembering I only popped out for medical stuff.
Fortunately I had £20 pounds that is in glove compartment for any little emergencies so bought £20 pounds worth I was already on quarter tank. I have had a hospital appointment went and bought shopping and have also driven around since Monday trying to find a petrol station that still has fuel.
I have not been able to find any and my local petrol station told me they were expecting petrol yesterday but the tanker did not turn up.
My son is now coming up with conspiracy theories telling me that the government are doing this and trying to blame it on all those that wanted Brexit and now they have messed up the country hence food shortage, petrol, and big hike in gas and electric prices. I am getting past caring now as soon I will have to leave the car on the drive and get a taxi to the big supermarket if this does not get sorted.

I shall ask AC when we go out to dinner this evening, they haven’t mentioned any shortages growstuff

Haven’t read all the comments, so hope I’m not repeating but it seems to me;

Where ignorance is bliss,….,

regarding the whole situation.

If nothing had been leaked, I really don’t think things would have been so bad.

Rosie51

growstuff

Rosie51 Try Thorpe Bay!

Seriously, I don't think that theory holds up. I live in a true blue Conservative constituency and I understand there are still dire shortages.

growstuff I think that's the point, true blue areas will be thought to be safe and not need the 'protection' London is largely labour so wouldn't count. Do you think if I write to Boris and say I'll vote Tory next time he'll divert a tanker or two to my area ?

Yes! Sorry! I wasn't thinking straight.

GrannyGravy13

growstuff

Rosie51 Try Thorpe Bay!

Seriously, I don't think that theory holds up. I live in a true blue Conservative constituency and I understand there are still dire shortages.

You do seem rather obsessed by Thorpe Bay, are you looking to move there?

No fear!!!

It was mentioned as a place which never seems to have shortages of anything.

growstuff

Rosie51 Try Thorpe Bay!

Seriously, I don't think that theory holds up. I live in a true blue Conservative constituency and I understand there are still dire shortages.

growstuff I think that's the point, true blue areas will be thought to be safe and not need the 'protection' London is largely labour so wouldn't count. Do you think if I write to Boris and say I'll vote Tory next time he'll divert a tanker or two to my area ?

I sympathise with your cousin. My son is due to go back to university. My ex husband is supposed to be taking him, but it involves a 600 mile round trip and he's in two minds whether to delay it. My son is anxious to get back to uni, having already been forced to be online for the last 18 months. He's considering spending an astronomical amount on returning by train and taxi, but that means he won't be able to take his computers, kitchen equipment and most of his books and clothes with him.

growstuff

Rosie51 Try Thorpe Bay!

Seriously, I don't think that theory holds up. I live in a true blue Conservative constituency and I understand there are still dire shortages.

They're not bothered about True Blue tories; they know that most of them would vote for a donkey with a blue rosette.

I'm in a red wall constituency and after the initial madness we've few problems up here. (Which is lucky for me because our very local garage chose this week to shut for a 10 day refurbishment...)

growstuff

Rosie51 Try Thorpe Bay!

Seriously, I don't think that theory holds up. I live in a true blue Conservative constituency and I understand there are still dire shortages.

You do seem rather obsessed by Thorpe Bay, are you looking to move there?

growstuff

Alegrias I'm not denying that panic buying exacerbated the problem, but the fact is that there was a shortage of fuel at the forecourts (no matter how many times people bleated "there are no shortages") and anybody with any sense would have ensured they had enough fuel to get them to work the next day. People cannot be "blamed" for having little confidence in supply and availability.

I don't disagree that people wanted to make sure that they could make essential journeys, but I'm afraid I do place some responsibility at the feet of people who went out to get some "just in case". Or the woman on the news reported as putting £1.60 worth of petrol in her tank.

Rosie51

I do wish people who want to tell us how there is no problem in their area would say where they live. A cousin in Leeds says all stations open, no queues, no problem. He'd like to visit family in London, but wouldn't stand a chance of guaranteeing being able to refuel. I've not been able to get fuel since the start, no local garages have any stock. I'm on the red, so daren't go anywhere unless I'm virtually guaranteed to be able to buy some fuel.
I heard a conspiracy theory that supplies are being prioritised to the 'red wall areas' in the hope the Tories can keep votes in those areas. I don't normally give conspiracy theories the light of day but could it explain regional variations? Certainly something is going wrong with the distribution that needs sorting out.

All petrol stations that I'm aware of in Scotland are operating fine. If they think that's going to win us over, they're in for a big disappointment

Rosie51 Try Thorpe Bay!

Seriously, I don't think that theory holds up. I live in a true blue Conservative constituency and I understand there are still dire shortages.

Alegrias I'm not denying that panic buying exacerbated the problem, but the fact is that there was a shortage of fuel at the forecourts (no matter how many times people bleated "there are no shortages") and anybody with any sense would have ensured they had enough fuel to get them to work the next day. People cannot be "blamed" for having little confidence in supply and availability.