Petrol queues reported now on BBC news

Of course it’s panic buying, but some need to panic. Two couples we know are awaiting births imminently. I doubt they’d get an emergency ambulance with the way things are. Also the Hermes delivery driver said he was having difficulty getting petrol. No petrol for him means a loss of his livelihood. He’s not driving a company vehicle so no transport, no income. It’s ok the government saying there is no shortage of fuel. There probably is enough, but it’s not getting to the point of sale for car users.

I have bought a camper van and the lady is delivering it to me today, she had to queue to put some petrol in in order to deliver to me, but she has accidentally put diesel in, app that’s all there was at the station and the pumps were confusing to work out since all the changes, there was no notice saying only diesel here, now she is waiting for RAC to empty the diesel and find some petrol, I dont think I will be seeing her for a while poor woman. Beware

If the press didn’t scaremonger this wouldn’t have happened. Asda, Morrisons and a Tesco not far from me have all now run out of petrol.

tanith

All the garages near me have queuing ? what is wrong with people ?

Nothing wrong with the people queuing. They live in a country in which the government has no preplanning. The same government has stripped out vast amounts of money from essential areas for the sake of an "austerity" that was never needed. They then put pennies back where pounds were taken and tell us they are spending more money on x,y and z - it's a lie.

The only thing "people can rely on is that as soon as this government says everything is okay, you know for sure that it isn't.

Smileless2012

It doesn't help does it felice. On BBC breakfast this morning at least they were emphasising it was a handful of garages with a supply problem.

I assume Smileless and felice don't travel anywhere by car.

Alegrias1

I'm judging this guy quite harshly.

Greedy b*****d!

MamaCaz

JaneJudge

Do you need a special licence to drive a white van? I'm sure my driving licence says I can drive up so many tons

I presume you passed your test before 1997?
People who have passed since then can't automatically drive vehicles over 3.5 tonnes.

We have a motorhome, which both OH and I are entitled to drive without any change to our old licences .
My step-daughter, 49, could also drive it in theory, but sons of 40 and 38 couldn't without adding another category to their licences. What that would actually entail, I don't know.

It would entail another test the government could charge for MamaCaz. I think they did something similar for HVG Tests.

Nothing wrong with the people queuing.

Sorry PippaZ but there is. There is no shortage. Some petrol stations closed temporarily, some people had to drive around a bit, the press got hold of it, loads of people over reacted and the supply chain couldn't hold up.

No excuse.

GrannyGravy13

Ashcombe

Copied from a post on Facebook:-

"After seeing the news last night about fuel shortages, I popped in to Tesco and I spoke to a very nice tanker driver who was rather informative and told me that the boats carrying fuel are arriving daily at Plymouth, the two depots in Plymouth are extremely well stocked and there is no shortage of drivers. His only concern was news articles misleading the public. He finished by explaining that it is only BP who have issues."

Yep, today’s petrol buying frenzy is entirely the fault of U.K. media.

But that doesn't ring true any more than the government saying it GrannyGravy. We are all aware of what supporters of this government will say to persuade the unwary. That's why we are in this, and even bigger messes, isn't it?

PippaZ have you actually listened to or read the comments from people in the industry?

There is not a fuel shortage

This is driven by sensationalist reporting and perpetuated by greedy individuals.

GrannyGravy13

PippaZ have you actually listened to or read the comments from people in the industry?

There is not a fuel shortage

This is driven by sensationalist reporting and perpetuated by greedy individuals.

Who has claimed there is a national fuel shortage? As far as I know, nobody.

That's a deflection from the issue that there is a fuel shortage in many places where it's needed ie. in the petrol stations.

Playing semantics doesn't solve the problems.

Picked one at random.

The Mirror.

A national fuel shortage is causing petrol stations across the country to close, risking widespread disruption.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/petrol-stations-closed-and-fuel-25063113

GrannyGravy The fact that my two nearest petrol stations have not had fuel for the last two days is not driven by sensational reporting or greedy individuals. It's driven by not having any petrol delivered! That's put pressure on the petrol stations which do have fuel, so of course they've run out more quickly.

Whitewavemark2

The point is that business flags up these issues weeks months or in the driver shortage years in advance, but this government consistently fails for various reasons to act on them

We then find ourselves spiralling into these crises that should and could have been avoided.

Totally right Whitewave. My theory is that this "Never Ready" government were planning Johnson's Coronation while everything they were warned would happen, was happening

Alegrias1

Picked one at random.

The Mirror.

^A national fuel shortage is causing petrol stations across the country to close, risking widespread disruption.^

Thank you. I stand corrected. Nevertheless,the issue is that there are shortages where it's needed.

Incidentally, supplies of oil are tight, which is why prices have risen so steeply, although that doesn't have any relevance to deliveries.

growstuff

Alegrias1

Picked one at random.

The Mirror.

^A national fuel shortage is causing petrol stations across the country to close, risking widespread disruption.^

Thank you. I stand corrected. Nevertheless,the issue is that there are shortages where it's needed.

Agreed.

But it's the reaction of the press and the other media that have blown this out of all proportion.

Anyway, this made me smile.

Alegrias1

^Nothing wrong with the people queuing.^

Sorry PippaZ but there is. There is no shortage. Some petrol stations closed temporarily, some people had to drive around a bit, the press got hold of it, loads of people over reacted and the supply chain couldn't hold up.

No excuse.

I disagree Alegrias. People would not be queuing if they could believe their government. The queues are a manifestation of how little people trust the government. As I think this government lies just as much as those in the queues appear to, I am not going to blame them.

I am no fan of this government, as I'm sure you know. Don't trust them as far as I could throw them.

I don't think anyone in the queue is lying.

Do they believe the AA? Or the fuel companies? Or the people who run petrol stations?

Sorry, lemmings. Greedy lemmings.

(Usual disclaimer - not those who need fuel to carry on their lives as normal)

Everyone I have seen posting on FB since this nonsense all started have been adamant that they are not panic buying, but only filling up as usual.

Every forum post I read is from people who are adamant that they are not panic buying, but only filling up as usual.

Everywhere you go, people are adamant that they are not panic buying, but only filling up as usual.

So if everyone is only filling up as usual, why are we seeing ridiculous queues (or, guaranteed to set my teeth on edge, "cues" or "ques")? Who ARE these panic buyers?

If the media hadn't reported this as "fuel shortage" but actually reported that BP was experiencing supply problems and had temporarily closed a small number of forecourt, or better still, hadn't reported it at all, then the (apparently invisible) panic buyer wouldn't have caused these queues.

It's so ironic that people are now driving around looking for petrol, or sitting in queues with their engines running, using fuel and causing pollution. All unnecessarily.

GrannyGravy13

PippaZ have you actually listened to or read the comments from people in the industry?

There is not a fuel shortage

This is driven by sensationalist reporting and perpetuated by greedy individuals.

Whether or not there is no fuel shortage is not my point.

This is what you get when people believe that the government lies.

People do not believe the government when they say there is no fuel shortage.

They know, from experience not to believe this government. This government has been whatever is the opposite of the boy who cried wolf, chicken licken, etc., The first thing that is out of their mouths is "there isn't a problem" and they have been wrong - through their own unpreparedness - time, after time, after time.

So petrol or no petrol, and knowing there is a shortage of drivers the government has been trying to ignore, people, other than those who blindly agree with this government, do not believe them

DH went to Tesco this morning. They had put a security man on to direct the queue of people waiting for fuel and to allow other shoppers past to get to the shop to buy groceries (which is what he went for).

Alegrias1

I am no fan of this government, as I'm sure you know. Don't trust them as far as I could throw them.

I don't think anyone in the queue is lying.

Do they believe the AA? Or the fuel companies? Or the people who run petrol stations?

Sorry, lemmings. Greedy lemmings.

^(Usual disclaimer - not those who need fuel to carry on their lives as normal)^

You only have to try and answer why people would or should believe this government and then you can see why people are worried enough to try and do something about it.

Call those who are worried names if you chose. This is all, as far as I am concerned, to be laid at this lying, Never Ready governments door.

AA. Petrol companies. Petrol station owners.

I do not blindly agree with the government. I rarely agree with the government. I believe them on this because it is patently the truth.

Some folk just need to use a bit of common sense.