Johnson is, as reported in the FT yesterday a.m. going to issue “temporary” visas for lorry drivers from Europe.
The media will play this down, but the implication of this humiliation was not lost on the cabinet who were totally split on this decision as they understood the optics of this u-turn and how it will play out in the U.K.
They know that leaving the single market has never been voted on by the British public, and a return would undoubtedly be welcomed by the vast majority. Leaving the single market never made any economic sense as can be seen by the chaos continuing to spread throughout the economy.
Holding the line was extremely important to the Brexiters and this crack is very unwelcome indeed, who argued for continued chaos rather than do something they swore would never happen again.
Rely on migrant Labour.
They were wrong and are wrong on so much more.
Just a thought...
When something good happens, its all down to the government. Vaccine development and rollout, for instance.
When something bad happens ( WWM2, 10:19) its really not their fault and there's nothing they could have done.
You have to remember that HGV drivers are a dying breed, so much needs to be done to invigorate the sector in very many countries, it’s a problem for all.
I wouldn’t call HGV driving a low skilled job!
Also, in that case all of Europe and the US didn’t do the maths either.
seeing which sectors we need and implementing it
Cause that's worked really well for other countries which have tried it.
theconversation.com/theres-one-big-problem-with-australias-skilled-migration-program-many-employers-dont-want-new-migrants-125569
Wrong I’m afraid.
Yes there was the stated intention to issue visas to migrant Labour, but only to highly skilled workers like doctors, engineers etc.
Low skill jobs were never intended to be filled by migrant Labour as it was considered that somehow we could fill it from our existing pool of Labour.
Clearly someone didn’t do the maths
trisher asylum seekers and illegal immigrants are a problem for all Western countries when they arrive in great numbers as they have been doing for a while now as well as a freedom of movement from all the countries in the EU.Which ( obviously)
We are not a part of now.
Controlled immigration for our workforce is the best thing, seeing which sectors we need and implementing it.
lemon did you see the numbers of immigrants arriving by boat during the good weather? Aren't our borders (because basically it's just the sea) open anyway?
Tim Martin demanding foreign labour is hilarious. But hospitality is losing out. Places couldn't cope this year in the tourist season goodness knows what will happen when tourism returns properly.
Please note it is the way the media are playing this down.
This from a major turkey producer
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oz33NNrs7g
I urge you to watch it.
Apologies if I don’t join in with the doom and gloom generated on every subject under the sun.
Leaving the EU bloc meant we were free to do what we wanted to on immigration.The UK will always need some, just as every country in Europe will.There is a great difference from being able to pick and choose to open borders.
“So, apart from the food, fuel, care worker & NHS staff shortages, rampant inflation, farming & fishing decimation, hospitality problems, loss of freedom to live freely on our own continent, £36bn debt & dividing the country into 2 angry tribes, what has Brexit ever done for us?”
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Scones
"I'm just fed up with every hiccup being a stick to beat the government with"
Current 'hiccups' include:-
The army driving ambulances is Scotland.
Chemotherapy being rationed due to staff shortages.
Waste collections delayed/cancelled due to staff shortages.
Petrol not being delivered to points of sale.
18% of people reporting not being able to buy essential food in the last week.
1,500 in hospital in Scotland purely because no suitable social care is available.
136,000 Coronavirus related deaths.
Stick-worthy hiccups.
Not so.
Staff shortages for delivering chemotherapy and waste collections are due to Covid.
Petrol ( no shortage) just BP having problems
Army helping out by driving ambulances....all good! That’s the government stepping up to the plate ( and NS requested it.)
We have just been through a terrible pandemic and yet it appears some people are outraged at the consequences....the same government got us all early vaccinations, remember?
They are not miracle workers.
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*The media will play this down*
What evidence, ahead of the event that this will happen?
Surely you should have an open mind and judge events as they come. You also need to consider that others may not see this event as being as humiliating or as significant as you do.
I am not offering any opinion on this subject at all at the moment.
It looks as if 6 month temporary visas are being granted to EU HGV drivers to help ease the problem .....and why not? This is sensible and what we who voted to leave the EU wanted, not unlimited freedom of movement but controlled immigration.
In certain areas, ( the haulage industry specifically) we should feel free to do what is needed.
The only problem I can see is because there is a Europe wide shortage of drivers we may struggle to get them....firms will have to offer more money than they can earn at home.
Eastern European drivers are the most likely to apply.
Europe also has a driver shortage and anyway importing drivers is not the answer as many younger drivers left the industry due to the hours they were expected to work and the way they were being treated.
That arch Brexiteer Tim Martin is demanding changes to the immigration laws so that he can import foreign labour for his pubs.
A major chilled food distributor has gone into liquidation. The supply Sainsbury and Asda.
The JiT used by the single market is collapsing, bring catastrophe to these sort of businesses.
Something to amuse - Marina Hyde yesterday
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/24/uk-prime-minister-shortage-crisis-boris-johnson-new-york
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vegansrock
And didn’t Farage say we would have a Norway style relationship? I.e. stay in single market? A hard Brexit was NOT what majority voted for.
It wasn’t just Farage. I thought ( happy to be corrected on this) that a lot of the people supporting the leave campaign said we’d still be staying in the single market?
Yes, I can even remember some Brexiters on GN who said it made sense to do so.
vegansrock
And didn’t Farage say we would have a Norway style relationship? I.e. stay in single market? A hard Brexit was NOT what majority voted for.
It wasn’t just Farage. I thought ( happy to be corrected on this) that a lot of the people supporting the leave campaign said we’d still be staying in the single market?
Pity the NHS isn’t seen as so important.
Scones
The Times are suggesting the next Uturn could be on meat processing staff.
It has to be with Christmas upon them.
The Times are suggesting the next Uturn could be on meat processing staff.
"I'm just fed up with every hiccup being a stick to beat the government with"
Current 'hiccups' include:-
The army driving ambulances is Scotland.
Chemotherapy being rationed due to staff shortages.
Waste collections delayed/cancelled due to staff shortages.
Petrol not being delivered to points of sale.
18% of people reporting not being able to buy essential food in the last week.
1,500 in hospital in Scotland purely because no suitable social care is available.
136,000 Coronavirus related deaths.
Stick-worthy hiccups.
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