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Keep this one simple - if HGV driver from Europe, would you come to help out on a 3 months contract?

(182 Posts)
Kali2 Tue 28-Sept-21 12:12:54

YES

or

NO

will do here.

Growing0ldDisgracefully Wed 29-Sept-21 14:55:27

No.

I read an amusing article the other day about a 90 year old HGV driver who retired 25 years ago, being put under pressure by an agency to sign back on. He said he probably couldn't get in or out of a truck cab any more and his licence had expired. They offered to retrain him and let him shunt lorries around the depot. I think he had to be fairly firm before they understood what No means.

Bluecat Wed 29-Sept-21 15:03:35

NO.

Secondwind Wed 29-Sept-21 15:03:36

No.

Mistyfluff8 Wed 29-Sept-21 15:17:35

Definitely NO and how would they get home abroad on 24/12 as UK shuts down

allium Wed 29-Sept-21 15:22:03

No

Kali2 Wed 29-Sept-21 15:31:58

42 NO

8 YES

1 depends

Small anecdotal sample, but seems quite clear.

MayBeMaw Wed 29-Sept-21 15:35:49

Kali2

42 NO

8 YES

1 depends

Small anecdotal sample, but seems quite clear.

Bearing in mind the statistical sample was taken from
1) mostly over 55’s if not over 65/70’s
2) women

Hardly a representational cross section of potential HGV drivers! gringringrin

usuallyright Wed 29-Sept-21 16:16:53

A great deal of the problems arising from lack of HGV drivers is highlighted now, because of the selfish nature of people in the present fuel situation. If only people would carry on as they would normally do, and pay no heed to the "Media", which incites this sort of outlandish behaviour on a gullible public.

You have only yourselves to blame for the present situation and not the Government.

PattyFingers Wed 29-Sept-21 16:17:26

No.
Does anyone else think that this is 'planned' by the government because they can make people stay at home without saying that we are in lockdown! They certainly aren't in a rush to send the army in with the tankers to replenish stocks..... They just remain on standby.

Cornishgreenhouse Wed 29-Sept-21 16:55:29

NO!

Kapitan Wed 29-Sept-21 17:04:10

No! I would make sure all those on Universal Credit and other benefits were trained to do the job instead of doing nothing.

Davida1968 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:24:02

NO!

Kali2 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:26:59

MayBeMaw

Kali2

42 NO

8 YES

1 depends

Small anecdotal sample, but seems quite clear.

Bearing in mind the statistical sample was taken from
1) mostly over 55’s if not over 65/70’s
2) women

Hardly a representational cross section of potential HGV drivers! gringringrin

Indeed.

And yet, it seems to be confirmed by comments from HGV drivers all over Europe. Did you hear what the Dutch HGV driver said ;) ?

Thisismyname1953 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:27:58

There is only a temporary problem with BP getting fuel to a couple of filling stations and the media have caused a panic over it .
There is a shortage of of HGV drivers in Europe too . This is not caused by brexit. Why is the government being blamed for all this media frenzy? If people don’t want to be HGV drivers ( here and in Europe) they don’t have to . The companies employing them need to pay better with better working conditions .

Kali2 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:28:28

Kapitan

No! I would make sure all those on Universal Credit and other benefits were trained to do the job instead of doing nothing.

And how long do you think that would take? Especially as a large proportion would have never driven a car, never mind a lorry or HGV with hazardous materials? Do you think that will 'save Christmas 2021' !

Kali2 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:30:46

Plain and simple. to the point

'Dutch HGV driver says that EU workers will not go back to "help UK out of the s**t they created themselves"

Alegrias1 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:32:33

Sorry to repeat myself...

They don't have to be from the EU.

Is it just me?

Lucca Wed 29-Sept-21 17:36:58

Thisismyname1953

There is only a temporary problem with BP getting fuel to a couple of filling stations and the media have caused a panic over it .
There is a shortage of of HGV drivers in Europe too . This is not caused by brexit. Why is the government being blamed for all this media frenzy? If people don’t want to be HGV drivers ( here and in Europe) they don’t have to . The companies employing them need to pay better with better working conditions .

A couple ??
Friend of mine drove round four filling stations at 6.30 a.m. on Monday before finding Sainsbury’s had just had a delivery.

Kapitan Wed 29-Sept-21 17:39:02

Kali2. It would save millions in crdit/benefit payments and create future revenue from tax and NIC. It would also assist mental health issues.

Alegrias1 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:48:47

Do you ever wonder if you've just wandered into a parallel universe?

Can't be just me. blush

Lin663 Wed 29-Sept-21 17:49:51

NO…it’s typical of this bunch of idiots that they would propose such a ridiculous thing…who wants to dig a load of irresponsible idiots out of the sh*t and then be out of a job on Christmas Eve?!

Elvis58 Wed 29-Sept-21 18:02:03

No.

westendgirl Wed 29-Sept-21 18:02:07

Yes there are shortages of lorry drivers in europe (Times today)but this is not affecting deliveries of food etc.Because of the single market they do not have to spend hours on all the post-Brexit customs, veterinary inspections and delays. They can recruit drivers from anywhere within the EU so can draw on a huge pool of drivers, working internationally. They are not held back by the tight post Brexit restrictions on the number of deliveries European drivers can make.Why should they want to come here ??Expensive parking, poor facilities, expensive and badly cooked food and not feeling welcome

Kali2 Wed 29-Sept-21 18:15:27

MayBeMaw

Kali2

42 NO

8 YES

1 depends

Small anecdotal sample, but seems quite clear.

Bearing in mind the statistical sample was taken from
1) mostly over 55’s if not over 65/70’s
2) women

Hardly a representational cross section of potential HGV drivers! gringringrin

But your forgot to say, Yes or No - if it was you?

MayBeMaw Wed 29-Sept-21 18:27:48

It’s a lot of “ifs”though isn’t it?
If I were an HGV driver (Freelance or unemployed) and the rate being offered were significantly above what I could earn in my home country , then I suppose like the seasonal workers who have come to the U.K. in the past or contract workers anywhere, I might well take a 3 month contract for £20k+ (being one third of the wages quoted) I suppose I might well think it worth my while. So a qualified Yes.
It’s down to supply and demand isn’t it?