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Keep this one simple - if HGV driver from Europe, would you come to help out on a 3 months contract?

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Kali2 Tue 28-Sept-21 12:12:54

YES

or

NO

will do here.

FlexibleFriend Tue 28-Sept-21 13:44:44

Goods vehicles
Duty time
If you work as a driver for a company, duty time is any working time. If you’re self-employed, duty time is only time you spend driving the vehicle or doing other work related to the vehicle or its load.

Daily driving limit
You must not drive for more than 10 hours in a day:

on a public road
off-road if not during duty time
Off-road driving counts as duty time if it’s for:

agriculture
quarrying
forestry
building work
civil engineering

You must not drive for more than 10 hours a day, great What about all the time spent waiting to be unloaded, being unloaded, returning to base and waiting for your next load. Rarely does any supermarket driver get away with a 10 hour shift, and sitting around twiddling your thumbs is just as tiring as driving.

MaizieD Tue 28-Sept-21 13:39:38

Alegrias1

www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/aetr-rules

So still fairly European. Eastern Europe and the Balkans?

FlexibleFriend Tue 28-Sept-21 13:38:47

NO, because the answer is to address the pay and conditions in this country not panic and take a backwards step.
The road haulage association is on the side of the employers, not the side of the drivers.

25Avalon Tue 28-Sept-21 13:37:57

There are not enough European drivers either. RHA say we need 100,000 drivers. Only 20,000 came from Europe, so even if all said yes it wouldn’t be enough. We need to get more trained HGV drivers. When it costs £4-7 thousand to get trained how many young people can afford that?

JaneJudge Tue 28-Sept-21 13:29:46

The Commonwealth? though there are charities that exist to try to keep skilled people in their original country as it causes a skill shortage there. We (personally too) rely on carers/support workers from the commonwealth who are qualified nurses in some instances topping up their qualifications so they can work in the NHS. At the moment if these people were not here we would be up the creek, the situation employing carers and support workers is almost impossible since Covid.

Where are all the British people to fill these jobs? We've been spun a rhetoric that we can do it all ourselves. I'm wavering whether to post this as I know it upsets people but where are all these people who wanted these jobs? they appear to be invisible

Alegrias1 Tue 28-Sept-21 13:25:40

www.gov.uk/drivers-hours/aetr-rules

MaizieD Tue 28-Sept-21 13:25:10

AETR?

Alegrias1 Tue 28-Sept-21 13:21:40

Well I don't know MaizieD, but it did occur to me that there are other places than Europe. The AETR countries, for instance, where they have to adhere mainly to the same drivers rules as the EU, so are prime candidates to take up the positions.

Off the top of my head.

MaizieD Tue 28-Sept-21 13:17:05

Alegrias1

I have a question. smile

Where in all the hype does it say they have to be from Europe?

could it be that they're our nearest neighbour and we're all perfectly familiar with EU HGV drivers being on our roads? And we 'did', until very recently, recognise their qualifications.

Where do you think they might come from (not being snippy, just curious)?

Smileless2012 Tue 28-Sept-21 13:16:28

Yes for the reasons MerylStreep and henetha have posted.

vegansrock Tue 28-Sept-21 13:15:47

Well we had several thousand from Europe before and since thousands of lorries come every day through Dover it makes sense that Europe would be the first place to look , though if you think we should be trawling around Asia or South America for lorry drivers that might mean a longer wait. However, given the choice between working in Germany where the pay and conditions are way better and you are made to feel welcome I doubt there will be much of a queue.

henetha Tue 28-Sept-21 13:14:45

Yes - but only if the money was VERY good.

Alegrias1 Tue 28-Sept-21 13:09:48

I have a question. smile

Where in all the hype does it say they have to be from Europe?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 28-Sept-21 13:05:24

MerylStreep

If I couldn’t pay my rent or feed my children and no welfare net to help me, then Yes I would. Pride wouldn’t come into it.

No chance if that when there are so many vacancy’s in countries where employee protection is written in law.

It doesn’t make rational sense to come to the U.K.

MerylStreep Tue 28-Sept-21 12:56:46

If I couldn’t pay my rent or feed my children and no welfare net to help me, then Yes I would. Pride wouldn’t come into it.

Shinamae Tue 28-Sept-21 12:47:25

grannyrebel7

No definitely not! I think it's an insult to them. Also it's been made to look as if we're doing them a favour. When will this government ever get anything right? I despair!

Do you think Boris is a double agent? ?"i’m beginning to think he is….

Shinamae Tue 28-Sept-21 12:46:25

Absolutely not

Yammy Tue 28-Sept-21 12:34:37

No, I think it is cheeky to ask them and not good for our own.

MaizieD Tue 28-Sept-21 12:33:52

No

Yet according to the radio just now, there are no shortages of fuel in the UK.

OH GAWD! Read the other threads on this.

(Sorry Kali2)

Soroptimum Tue 28-Sept-21 12:30:04

NO!

grannyrebel7 Tue 28-Sept-21 12:29:26

No definitely not! I think it's an insult to them. Also it's been made to look as if we're doing them a favour. When will this government ever get anything right? I despair!

felice Tue 28-Sept-21 12:25:44

SIL is an HGV driver, also partner in a food supply company, they are all having a good laugh at this.
After my last post where I told about the HGV licence on a stamped address envelope applying for a HGV drivers job goodness knows what kind of drivers would go over.
Yet according to the radio just now, there are no shortages of fuel in the UK.

frenchie Tue 28-Sept-21 12:23:25

NO

Grannynannywanny Tue 28-Sept-21 12:21:47

No

Curlywhirly Tue 28-Sept-21 12:19:45

No.