Conservative party conference outcomes

Perth Australia has one man bin lorries. You have to put the bin out correctly so it's picked up mechanically, the contents are tipped into the lorry and the empty bin is placed back on the ground.

Very clever and we did wonder at the time, 2.5 years ago if it would ever catch on here.

Huffpost has reported Andrew Neil's interview with LBC under the Headline: "Neil Slams Boris Johnson"

Neil said the public had an “expectation we’d get some policy now” as the pandemic has subsided and as the UK is being plunged into crisis after crisis.

Neil pointed out: “This winter we’re going into a serious cost of living crisis which will hit the poorest most of all, we don’t know when the shortages on the supermarket shelves or the petrol forecourts will end.

"We don’t know what the policy is on social care, we don’t know what the policy is on the NHS, other than to bung it more money, and we don’t know what ‘levelling up’ means."

The political pundit continued: “We have a right to know what the policies are, and to know if we have these been implemented yet."(sic)

The Leave voters were lied to.

Boris Johnson is a proven liar who has actually been sacked twice for lying.

The most depressing comment I've heard about the state of British politics is that there is no point in opposition parties pointing out Johnson's lies to the electorate because the fact that he is a habitual liar has been "priced in"

The last straw for me is BJ apparently saying that years of 'difficulties' before his vision kicks in is what the country voted for. It most certainly did not. Voters were told that leaving the EU would be the easiest thing ever. Britain would be able to pick and choose its new trading partners, starting with the US - nothing easier. No problem with Ireland that couldn't be solved with new technology (so new it's still not in existence). All with just a 'bumpy' few months. That is what voters were promised and that is what the tories will be judged on.

I would challenge anyone to look at that video and say which of the two protagonists was the more honourable, the more honest, the more deserving, the more principled and the more intelligent of the two.

Of course, that poor guy who confronted Rees Mogg realises that the strategy doesn't always work, unless you're one of the chosen ones.

Alegrias1

^The financial winners will be the clever people who develop robotic bin lorries.^

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJSHXr8i-ZU

The Swedes.

Interesting! It won't be long before the UK has them.

Only one driver - and even he/she wouldn't be needed if the trucks were fitted with sensors to pick up the bins.

Great if you're clever and techy, but what jobs will there be for those not so gifted? We're going to end up with a society of clever inventors and the "rest", who will need to do the menial jobs (if there are enough jobs left). I can seriously see us ending up with gated communities.

I wonder if those who think pay for the lowest pay is going to increase realise that the message from the Tory conference was actually to get off their butts and work harder and get themselves a better education.

Dinahmo

Urmstongran

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

True, we were a net contributor but we also received millions in grants for research, culture, historical buildings etc etc etc.

The UK as a whole was a net contributor, but many areas received billions in support. Those areas were promised that grants would be replaced. The pittance some of them have been offered (if they voted Conservative) falls far short of what they've lost.

growstuff

Alegrias1

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

I like number 5 growstuff, very cheerful

I think it looks like a Victorian tea cup pattern.

How appropriate. Victorian values

The financial winners will be the clever people who develop robotic bin lorries.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJSHXr8i-ZU

The Swedes.

Alegrias1

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

I like number 5 growstuff, very cheerful

I think it looks like a Victorian tea cup pattern.

It's more likely that if wages go up, there will be fewer collections and/or there's more incentive to find ways of automating collections.

The financial winners will be the clever people who develop robotic bin lorries.

Urmstongran

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

True, we were a net contributor but we also received millions in grants for research, culture, historical buildings etc etc etc.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25205017

I like number 5 growstuff, very cheerful

A caller to J Vine this am - described himself as working class and couldn't get a mortgage - said Johnson was going to pay him more.

Last night on Newsnight an economist said that if pay goes up productivity has to go up too. Does this mean that the people who provide services such as bin collectors or road sweepers have to collect more bins or sweep greater distances during their working week?

I remember when Thatcher, in the first budget after her election victory in 1979, reduced the highest rate of income tax from 83% to 60%. A certain William Rees-Mogg wrote a column in his newspaper, thanking her on behalf of himself and his friends, in which he said that they would sit back and accept the benefit but it wouldn't make them work any harder.

Following his example why shouldn't workers just accept any increase?

It's not quite the same.

This is the map of the UK Urmstongran seems to want.

I wonder what the union flag will look like without Scotland's blue?

Many areas of England were not net contributors. There's an almost inverse correlation between the areas which contribute to the UK's net wealth and voting to leave.

Northern Ireland's vote was split between Belfast and the border areas, who realised the advantages that the EU had brought to cross-border trade and peace.

Urmstongran

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

Are you having us on Urmstongran? Really, are you having us on?

What about Cornwall, were they net contributors? They voted overwhelmingly to Leave, I believe.

Honest to God, just when you think it can't get any dafter....

But England was a net contributor to the EU.
Which is maybe a reason England voted to Brexit.
NI was not. No wonder they are missing largesse from them!

This post was certainly written with foresight:

Pity us in N. Ireland. The majority of the country voted to remain. Now we are faced with the prospect of a return to border control and producing a passport to drive a few miles/kilometres down the road. We have benefitted tremendously from EU grants to agriculture, research, social development and reconciliation projects.

Thanks England and Wales!

I believe you're correct MaizieD. But while it was convenient to ignore it, he didn't say anything. Just on the day after.

Alegrias1

Yes, I remember the day after the referendum Farage telling us there wouldn't be £350million every day for the NHS after all.

Captain Hindsight, eh?

To be fair, did he ever promise that?

I thought that was Vote Leave and they and Farage didn't see eye to eye.

OTH, I think he told the fishing industry that a prosperous new future awaited them....

Yes, I remember the day after the referendum Farage telling us there wouldn't be £350million every day for the NHS after all.

Captain Hindsight, eh?

That was a blast from the past, Alegrias. A few familiar but now absent names there!

Note 'it will be bumpy' on the day after the ref.