Wales you are having Covid Passports. Is this a 'Fix?'

I’ve done my homework, here’s the latest on transmission rates with and without the vaccine. This is 5 days ago.
www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people-are-less-likely-spread-covid-new-research-finds-n1280583

Even worse than the vote was the sight of AMs staying in the building and looking out on a few protestors outside. Why didn't they just run the gauntlet and make their way out. Look at what happened to Iain Duncan Smith the other day. I'm sure the Cardiff ones would have just been in good humour, at least I hope so.

Bibbity

I am in Wales. And I am married to a night club manager. I am happy with it.

Is a double vaccination enough or do I have to have the booster before I can come and live it up Bibbity?

So should we not have less access for those who received the AZ vaccine than those who have received the Pfizer after all they are more likely to transmit than those who received Pfizer.

Casdon

Bibbity it was recommended by the Chief Medical Officer, endorsed by Public Health Wales, who do have the relevant degrees. The Welsh Government does listen to the experts who have the relevant degrees, and act on their recommendations.

Casdon I think you've missed the context of my post.

I honestly don't know yet. He hasn't had any updates we're awaiting on what the parameters will be.

I haven't been to a nightclub for a few years, Bibbity and think I caused chaos when I last went to one.

Oh no, that was the time before last

Callistemon ?? I utterly disgraced myself last time I went, I think I’d shut the experience away, you just reminded me…oops!

My friend and I went to a music event in Aberystwyth about a month ago, we both live about 45 minutes drive away. Had to show our covid jab certifcate at the door. Those who didn't have one had to do a covid test on site. We queued about 30 minutes to get into the building hosting the event.

I live in Wales and am all for the vaccine passport. It makes perfect sense to me. Mark Drakeford is a superb politician. It's a pity we don't have more like him.

Have you ever tried to contact Mark Drakeford. I have several times and just never had a reply.

Have you tried asking him on Facebook why he can't be bothered to reply, fairfraise?

I don't think it is the wrong thing to do, but if one AM couldn't access the Zoom meeting although he/she wanted to, is it legally binding?

If you read the story according to BBC News he was at the Tory conference, they knew Zoom could be an issue, so the presiding officer gave him her personal mobile number in advance. He didn’t ring at the designated time though, so she made the decision to go ahead on the basis of who was there. Surely that is how voting works?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-58816952
Here’s the article

Callistemon I don't go to FB political sites. Did once or twice and you get all sorts of weirdo answers back, so I don't bother now.

fairfraise

Callistemon I don't go to FB political sites. Did once or twice and you get all sorts of weirdo answers back, so I don't bother now.

A salutary warning!

Thanks Casdon
He's not my Senedd member thank goodness.

Nor mine thank goodness Callistemon. The pragmatic response from Peter Fox was exactly what I would have expected from him though, the democratic process has to be followed.

Galaxy

But my understanding is the impact on transmission rate is not yet proved? Alegrias where are you, I am having the same discussion as the last time.

Aw, thank you Galaxy!

I'm deferring to Casdon on this one!

Casdon

Nor mine thank goodness Callistemon. The pragmatic response from Peter Fox was exactly what I would have expected from him though, the democratic process has to be followed.

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Sorry to diverge from the thread, but Peter Fox is the name of one of the key characters in Ridley Road. I got confused there about what thread I was on!

Anyway, back to the passports!

I need you and casdon on speed dial Alegrias!
The trouble is when you start to try and have these conversations about bodily autonomy and about dividing society in this way you risk being lumped in with covid deniers etc. I understand clearly that it is safer to have the vaccine than risk covid, I was vaccinated very early due to my job. But I also understand that peoples relationship with their health is very complex. I also think if I am honest that it's not about transmission its about some sort of morality, and that scares me.

Casdon

If you read the story according to BBC News he was at the Tory conference, they knew Zoom could be an issue, so the presiding officer gave him her personal mobile number in advance. He didn’t ring at the designated time though, so she made the decision to go ahead on the basis of who was there. Surely that is how voting works?

As long as there is a quorum which there obviously was.

Perhaps he was more concerned about making a name for himself at the Conference than doing the job for which he was elected.
Or perhaps I am doing him a disservice and he did have difficulties.

love0c

fairfraise that is my point too. Really not happy about it. I think the same thing could well happen here too in England. Politicians think it is their 'right' to manipulate to get their choice of result.

It has been discounted in England, they were persuaded by the very vocal minority, as in most things. Johnson is supposed to lead, not bow down to minority pressure. I personally would prefer a passport to enter restaurants etc. Compulsory in Scotland and many other countries, Germany, Netherlands etc.