we aren’t in lockdown -so why are there anti lockdown protests?

Just to be clear she would never harass or hurt anyone physically. She would be happy to talk nonsense though.

I think some people are struggling, like galaxy says. I also think no MPs should be harassed either though.

On another point though, where are the vaccines? Apparently the rest of Europe is racing ahead of us. my youngest was due to have his at school beginning of term but the school don't think they'll get them before Christmas. Apart from my Mum, I don't know anyone who has been offered a booster.

Yes I know but. One of my friends who I have known since the age of 3 is an anti vaxxer, after all of her adult life having very little interest in politics except a strong commitment to the environment and animal welfare. No previous unusual beliefs or conspiracy theories. She's bright, although I will give you arrogant (although only on this subject) and very kind. My homespun analysis of the situation is a damaging childhood led to a damaged marriage, and my guess is lockdown was a catalyst. Instead at looking at what was going on for herself she found something else to occupy her thoughts.

There is just no justifying stupid in my opinion.

The polarisation between different points of view seems to be getting worse by the day. These anti vax protesters are like so many ‘minority’ groups, they make a lot of nouse, break laws, intimidate and bully, with impunity.
Worse, they perpetuate total nonsense about the pandemic. I’ll informed, arrogant fools. I’m fed up with them. There. Nothing useful or constructive to add, just a rant from me.

Must have been a senior moment ? seem to be having a few of them lately

Maudi

Yes it was Emily Thornbury in my hurry to post got the names mixed up, I stand corrected. Just substitute Thornbury for Soubry and my post stands. ?

Except that the post you were responding to wasn’t about Emily Thornbury

You’re right varian, they’re brainwashed and stupid! I normally respect the views of others however much I might differ, but anti vacciners have absolutely no basis for holding their views whatsoever. The ridiculous idea that some sort of a chip is in it so we can be tracked is actually beyond ridiculous.

maddyone

If these people are anti vaccine, why don’t they just not have the vaccine? Why do they feel the need to harass other people and try to persuade them not to have the vaccine?

They have been brainwashed. Brainwashing has happened a lot in the last ten years.

Yes it was Emily Thornbury in my hurry to post got the names mixed up, I stand corrected. Just substitute Thornbury for Soubry and my post stands. ?

If these people are anti vaccine, why don’t they just not have the vaccine? Why do they feel the need to harass other people and try to persuade them not to have the vaccine?

Fruit cakes is one way of describing them.

Zoejory

They were anti-vaccine protesters.

They are idiots and need a lock down in prison.

Exactly that

Maudi

The Anna Soubry who looked down on white van man and was a Labour MP who supposedly are the working man's party. No wonder the working man has deserted them.

No, the Anna Soubry who was a Conservative MP and minister before being an independent and later joining Change UK.

members.parliament.uk/member/3938/career

Maudi

The Anna Soubry who looked down on white van man and was a Labour MP who supposedly are the working man's party. No wonder the working man has deserted them.

Oh, and it was Emily Thornbury who made the comment about white van man. She apologised, I believe, but also pointed out that her brother was a white van man.

She was Conservative. Get your facts right please. And does that make it right for her to be threatened by men in the street while going to parliament to do gopher job?

There isn't a great deal going on between the ears with most of these misguided idiots. They probably don't conform with a lockdown when there is one. Anything to wave a placard.

The Anna Soubry who looked down on white van man and was a Labour MP who supposedly are the working man's party. No wonder the working man has deserted them.

And newspapers with pictures of people on the front page with the word Traitors above them shouldn’t be allowed.

Zoejory

They were anti-vaccine protesters.

They are idiots and need a lock down in prison.

The newsreader who said anti lockdown made another mistake last night too. Having said that, what Gove experienced was nothing like the abuse that Anna Soubry used to suffer from the hands of the pro brexit lot. But no one seemed to care about that.

In this country we are far too soft on protestors. Stand around with placards, fair enough. Block motorway slip roads then jail them.
Time we exhibited zero tolerance.

Well said Zoejory.

However much we disagree with or dislike politicians they shouldn't be open to abuse. As we know this can result in violent acts.

I think as they sense that the battle is lost, those who have the alternative viewpoint become more and more aggressive in their assertions. In Cardiff a couple of weekends ago anti-Vax demonstrators were aggressively harassing 12-15 year olds as they went for their vaccinations. The use of the police is the only option in those circumstances I think, because you can’t reason with people who are baying for blood.

What others say ????