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Is this a humiliation for Glasgow? ?

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Urmstongran Thu 21-Oct-21 10:05:15

Strikes by binmen, piles of rubbish (and rats) in the streets, road-blocking protests and hotel rooms priced at £1,400 a night set to cast shadow over UN Climate Change Conference which starts on 31 October. Maybe it’s a ‘trick’ for Halloween ?

MaizieD Sat 23-Oct-21 11:42:44

Elegran

lemongrove

I can see why COP26 needs to go ahead and can also see that it can’t be done virtually, but surely it could have taken place in a bit more remote place.Also one where it wouldn’t have caused inconvenience to local people.I also doubt that each country represented needs such a massive entourage.

The more remote the location, the more inconvenience per local inhabitant.
How would the delegates get there? There would probably not be an airport for a hundred miles or more, and the bus service could be one a day in each direction, so they would need a fleet of taxis.
Where would they all sleep if there were no hotels? "Remote" usually means "not many inhabitants" so not many spare rooms.
Where would the full-scale meetings be held? The church hall?
How would supplies for large numbers of hungry participants, and the IT equipments for communications with each other and the media be brought in over long and inadequate roads?
How would all the international journalists be accommodated, and would the the wifi up to the strain?

I think they could hire at least three of those floating high rise blocks that are laughingly named 'cruise ships', pack the whole lot onto them and chug the whole lot up to the north coast of Scotland grin

lemongrove Sat 23-Oct-21 11:44:31

Not talking about the Outer Hebrides here!
Just not actually in a city. Possibly it couldn’t be done in Scotland.The logistics for holding something on this scale are difficult but doable at any normal time, but times are not completely normal as yet.

lemongrove Sat 23-Oct-21 11:45:46

Actually MaizieD.......that’s not a bad idea.?

Alegrias1 Sat 23-Oct-21 11:47:24

The Hebrides aren't on the North Coast of Scotland. Even though The Scotsman got a bit confused.

www.shetlandtimes.co.uk/2021/10/18/really-the-scotsman-apologises-after-headline-implies-shetland-is-in-the-hebrides#:~:text=The%20Scotsman%20has%20apologised%20after,as%20a%20%E2%80%9CHebridean%20hero%E2%80%9D.

As you were.

lemongrove Sat 23-Oct-21 11:54:35

Thanks for that nugget Algerias ?
My post is in answer to Elegran so nothing to do with where the Outer Hebrides are.

Alegrias1 Sat 23-Oct-21 12:52:07

Okey doke Lemongrove

In other news, here's a wee gif I'm sure the Scots Grans will like. And others too, I'm sure.

makeagif.com/i/WZcmLF

Elegran Sat 23-Oct-21 13:23:56

Three cruise ships giving the delegates a tour of the Scottish coast sounds a great idea. They could do their negotiating against a background of the kind of climatic areas and environment that their decisions could affect, while eating Scottish salmon hatched in cool waters and drinking whisky made with peaty water..However I imagine it would not go down well with all environmentalists and/or privilege-fighters on various grounds.

Joesoap Sat 23-Oct-21 15:34:02

What is the fuss about, things worked out well in the summer when the summit was held in little Cornwall,in Glasgow it will be a success I am sure

Aveline Sat 23-Oct-21 17:37:36

Huge surge in Covid cases due to it though. angry

Kali2 Sun 24-Oct-21 20:55:13

Raw sewage poured into our waters is NOT a good look for an environmental summit!

paddyann54 Sun 24-Oct-21 21:26:14

kali2 thats NOT happening in Scotland,Scottish water is still nationalised .Its private water companies aided and abbeted by WM governments who are poisoning English water .No doubt for their own gain!!

Kali2 Sun 24-Oct-21 21:34:59

Thanks- yes, of course. For the world out there, the UK is the UK- I'm afraid.

Alegrias1 Sun 24-Oct-21 22:01:41

For much of the world, the UK is England. ?

But I'm working on it. ?

Kali2 Sun 24-Oct-21 22:03:40

Well, I am afraid that is true. The French always talk about 'les anglais' and not 'les citoyens de la Grande Bretagne' - aka 'les rosbifs'.

Marydoll Sun 24-Oct-21 22:46:10

Rosbifs became a mark of the Englishman as far as the French were concerned in the 18th Century, simply because it was a very popular way of cooking.

Never heard it referring to the Scots. Now if it had been, Les tartes au steak ( not quite sure what the accurate translation of traditional Scottish steak pie is) I could accept that.

Lolo81 Sun 24-Oct-21 23:02:10

The cruise ship being used for accommodation is for several purposes - but predominantly to aid the police force in the huge security effort that’s being undertaken. I have a family member who is involved in the travel aspect and the planning etc (and background checks) have been ongoing for months.
Travel wise it’s a bloody nightmare for anyone in the vicinity! Was picking my daughter up from the hydro the other night and ended up doing a city tour because the expressway was all coned up.

paddyann54 Mon 25-Oct-21 00:26:24

Kali"2 a little remembered fact that was told to me by a foreign exchange student we had from Paris.Scots had dual citizenship WITH France until 1903 . A leftover from the Auld Alliance I believe and until then we had the right to a French passport so I think most French people know the difference between Scotland and England .

Marydoll Mon 25-Oct-21 00:34:07

Touché!

Alegrias1 Mon 25-Oct-21 07:56:11

When I lived in France many (most?) people referred to the inhabitants of the UK as anglais. So I used to explain that I wasn't anglaise, I was écossaise. Everybody was very understanding and usually interested to hear I was écossaise, and knew I came from Scotland, and completely understood Scotland's different culture and history. Then they'd go right back to using anglaise. They weren't being awkward, but the word was used there to mean the inhabitants of the UK, it's just how it was sad

Marydoll Mon 25-Oct-21 08:19:17

Same thing happened to me Alegtias, when a colleague and I were studying in Lyons. We used to get asked frequently where we were from. If they asked anglaise, I would respond with, Anglaise, pas tous, je suis écossaise!!! It was usually met with a smile and, Ah je comprends la différence.
Vive la différence! I am proud of my heritage! However, that doesn't mean I dislike the English!

Petera Mon 25-Oct-21 09:28:36

Alegrias1

When I lived in France many (most?) people referred to the inhabitants of the UK as anglais. So I used to explain that I wasn't anglaise, I was écossaise. Everybody was very understanding and usually interested to hear I was écossaise, and knew I came from Scotland, and completely understood Scotland's different culture and history. Then they'd go right back to using anglaise. They weren't being awkward, but the word was used there to mean the inhabitants of the UK, it's just how it was sad

It still happens - I have a French colleague who referred to me as anglaise, I explained that, no I was écossaise. She looked at me patiently and explained ...et je suis parisienne, mais je suis aussi française

Marydoll Mon 25-Oct-21 09:34:00

Did you have an appropriate response en français, Petera?

By the time I thought in French, it would have been too late. I am never quick enough! grin

Alegrias1 Mon 25-Oct-21 09:55:03

I have in the past been known to draw a map. blush

Petera Mon 25-Oct-21 09:56:09

Marydoll

Did you have an appropriate response en français, Petera?

By the time I thought in French, it would have been too late. I am never quick enough! grin

No, there was a bit of jaw flapping while I tried to come up with something and failed. And I still haven't - so no esprit de l'escalier - beyond getting a map out, becoming earnest, and starting to point at things.

Maremia Mon 25-Oct-21 10:34:17

Sometimes it helped if you said 'Marie Stuart', with an accent of course. They seemed to get it then.