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There is a pot of £37 billion within the government’s accounts that is available to meet the cost of paying old age pension increases in accordance with the triple lock.

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PippaZ Wed 27-Oct-21 11:00:45

I know we try to look at the governments accounts in a more modern way these days - but the government don't. So it is interesting to see how they are playing with their own accounts.

Right now though the government is seeking to pass a Bill that will reduce state pensions by reducing the triple lock that has been in place since 2010, ... You can see the account and the details here.

Please read it. What we do know is that not raising the pension will affect those for whom the State Pension is the majority of their income - including those on Pension Benefits. For those who don't like to click I will quote a little.

It seems to be little known that there is a thing called the National Insurance Fund within UK government accounts.

The article goes on to show the account and the certification that it is true and fair.

What is also clear is that more is being paid into this fund than is required at present to pay pensions. There is at present a surplus of £36.9 billion on the fund account. Under the provisions of the Social Security Administration Act 1992 this surplus has to be identified and the use of these funds is ring-fenced.

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Maintaining the triple lock would cost roughly £5 billion. There is £37 billion in the National Insurance Fund to cover not just that payment, but also the payment due for many years to come, and by continuing with the operation of this fund parliament acknowledges that the funds for this purpose are already set aside for it.

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Instead of paying what is literally due to pensioners, it is lending their pension fund, such as it is, to the Treasury to reduce the national debt. I am sure that they are delighted about that.

Right now though the government is seeking to pass a Bill that will reduce state pensions by reducing the triple lock ...

Is this government actually intending to steal our pensions?

yogitree Wed 27-Oct-21 13:10:51

I wouldn't put anything past them. Look what's been done to the 50's women.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 27-Oct-21 13:13:13

They gave that much to 1 person???? which has now been shown to be utterly useless

Dinahmo Wed 27-Oct-21 13:41:56

Here is a link to an House of Commons Briefing Paper about pensions. The UK seems to be rather low down the lists compared to other European countries. Not good for a country that is still in the top 10 richest countries.

researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN00290/SN00290.pdf

PippaZ Wed 27-Oct-21 14:21:43

Whitewavemark2

They gave that much to 1 person???? which has now been shown to be utterly useless

It's certainly shocking that they have decided to stop bringing our pensions more in line with other countries of our stature.

I have a strong feeling that, whatevery our working lives were about, we are just a nuisance to this government.

Great, isn't it. First they kill us off in large numbers and then they starve/freeze those whose main income is the pension and a pension their economics says we all paid for.

PippaZ Wed 27-Oct-21 14:32:07

So, although I do feel that this government sees the elderly as a burden I do understand that this breaking of the triple lock will affect the young too.

That's the thing about compound interest.

Dinahmo Wed 27-Oct-21 19:30:55

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/07/suspending-pensions-triple-lock-will-hit-young-hard

The above article (which is more than 1 month old), despite the title, argues in favour of maintaining the triple lock and that by increasing pensions now they will be at a higher level for when the next generations start to receive theirs.

There is definitely an argument to reducing the tax relief on pension contributions to 20%