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Insulate Britain

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MayBeMaw Wed 27-Oct-21 18:01:53

We are not talking about Universal Suffrage, Female Emancipation, Abolition of Slavery - how dare these people stop care workers and health professionals going about their essential business, lorry drivers delivering essential goods and joe public who might like to get back to his home this side of midnight ?????
( I liked the man who “serenaded” them with his bagpipes - only I happen to like the pipes)

sundowngirl Fri 29-Oct-21 12:01:47

Lincslass

vegansrock

Some of you think that recycling a few yoghurt pots is all that needs doing. You are obviously on the side of this interviewer who thinks you can grow concrete and tried to undermine the young protester who has a job as a carpenter.
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2021/10/26/presenter-stops-insulate-britain-interview-after-claiming-you-can-grow-concrete-15488485/amp/

Please credit us that do a bit of recycling´ with more commonsense than you think. How patronising and downright superior you sound.

I sooo agree with you - how patronising!!! I'm so fed up with being preached to by these 'holier than thou" protestors

Alioop Fri 29-Oct-21 11:52:54

Eejits the lot of them. We know their cause, we all listen to the different programmes on things that need to change in the world. They don't need to glue their idiotic asses to the ground and stop people going to work to feed their families, take people to hospital for treatment and kids to school for an education. Fools have nothing better to do.

Griselda Fri 29-Oct-21 11:40:33

I think the police should leave them where they are. It wouldn't take too long before they were begging for help to be realeased - especially the older ladies.

inishowen Fri 29-Oct-21 11:27:46

I feel sorry for the police who have to put up with every day. Not reacting is so difficult.

Lilyflower Fri 29-Oct-21 11:27:28

“We are not talking about Universal Suffrage, Female Emancipation, Abolition of Slavery ...”

Just what I thought. What an equivocal cause for which to disrupt people’s lives and threaten health. Whatever next? Shut down a power station until people lag their pipes or bleed their radiators?

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 11:26:16

Bah! Rile.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 11:25:49

It just goes to prove how their tactics are not furthering their cause, doesnt it, if they can rule up us usually mild mannered grannies?

Scones Fri 29-Oct-21 11:16:22

Just amazed at people on here who were recently (quite rightly) fiercely vociferous on how hateful on-line language breeds breeds violence towards MPs are now suggesting assaulting protestors, gluing them protesters to railings, using water cannons on them and putting up laughing emojis at ink being thrown in their faces.

If anyone is rentamob it's flipping Gransnet.

greenlady102 Fri 29-Oct-21 11:13:23

MissAdventure

I think if I was trying to get somewhere, like hospital or to a dying person's bedside, I'd probably assault someone stopping me.
It wouldn't be right, but it would be worth being in the wrong for.

oh me too

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 11:11:18

I think if I was trying to get somewhere, like hospital or to a dying person's bedside, I'd probably assault someone stopping me.
It wouldn't be right, but it would be worth being in the wrong for.

greenlady102 Fri 29-Oct-21 11:07:33

Kali2

Do you think that spraying the faces of demonstrators with ink (and it could have been anything else) is fair, or assault?

I think its assault. Its not right to break a law just because someone else dd.

maddyone Fri 29-Oct-21 11:07:23

Yes, you’re right Rosie. The police would be told to move them pretty quickly if they were demonstrating in Glasgow next week. Any other time, fine, but not next week.

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 11:07:04

I was thinking that, too, about them protesting in Glasgow. smile

Rosie51 Fri 29-Oct-21 11:04:30

Perhaps they’d do better to protest in Glasgow oh I wish they would, but they'd be cleared before their hands touched the ground. Don't blame the police, they're following orders from above. The will isn't there to prevent the disruption around London, it's only affecting the public not bigwigs.

maddyone Fri 29-Oct-21 10:51:38

not for there, just there

maddyone Fri 29-Oct-21 10:51:13

I don’t agree with the methods they’re using, they are simply alienating people. I do agree with their aims, but we probably all do. Perhaps they’d do better to protest in Glasgow where we’ll have thousands of people flying into next week, causing massive pollution with all the planes, cars, etc but somehow I think the police would move them pretty quickly if they were demonstrating and causing problems for there. Cynical. Me?

Bluebellwould Fri 29-Oct-21 10:32:21

Calistemon, Why an ‘elderly person’s loft’? Are you suggesting that old people are too old/stupid/misinformed that they won’t have an insulated loft? Rather a patronising and ageist assumption isn’t it?

Calistemon Fri 29-Oct-21 10:26:22

They have called today's protest off - because it is raining!

It could have melted th glue so the protest would have been a bit pointless.

Perhaps they've gone off to B&Q to buy some loft insulation and are insulating some elderly person's loft at this very moment!

I'd have a bit of respect if they started a campaign to fund that.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 29-Oct-21 10:22:16

IR tried to disrupt the M25 this morning junctions 28-29, they were cleared away within 30 minutes by Police.

Maybe the weather was a contributory factory?

MissAdventure Fri 29-Oct-21 09:56:50

grin

M0nica Fri 29-Oct-21 09:55:32

I am sure you are all like me impressed by the commitment of our rentamob ecowarriors to their cause today.

They have called today's protest off - because it is raining!

Compare them with other truly committed protestors. CND and the Greenham Women. The members of these groups suffered through hardships of rain and cold weather and far more and unpleasant opposition than this little group of wimps.

They won the respect of people like me, who did not agree with them - and many others, which is more than this lot are doing.

M0nica Thu 28-Oct-21 17:14:47

vegansrock There is a difference with doing what we can do to reduce, reuse and recycle, You may may be happy just recycling yoghourt pots. but most of us do far more than that.

But just what are these protesters doing to further their cause, beyond sitting in the road and causing excess emissions. Why have these groups only come into existence in the last year, when there have been concerted efforts to get people to insulate their houses for the last 30 years or more and building regs are updated almost annually to ensure houses have more and more insulation.

I am quite unapologetic about calling them 'rentamob'. although I have never suggested they are unwashed or jobless. Having a respectable 'middle class' background, like being a clergyman, or teacher doesn't stop one being part of a rentamob.

I earlier made a comparison with the Trussell Trust. Look at the way they have dominated the agenda in publicising how badly the welfare system works and look at how supermarkets, churches and other places have bins at their exits for customers to donate food to the Food banks and how much so many people give to them. Postives all the way down the line and government having to take notice of what they do.

Now look at ER and Insulate Britain. All they have done is bring discredit on their cause. I cannot imagine that a single person will have put a shred of insulation in their house as a result of their antics. On the contrary all they have done is cause cars to emit more emissions into the atmosphere.

They have not come up with any positive ideas about how their aims could be met and I would be very interested to know how well insulated their own homes are. As most of them are well educated how come they have only just realised the importance of insulation?

No, as far as I am concerned they are a useless rentmob.

Smileless2012 Thu 28-Oct-21 15:09:03

There's nothing feeble about the building regulations where we are vegansrock. We own a very old property, shop unit with a flat above, and are currently undertaking a lot of very expensive work to improve the insulation at the behest of our local council.

This includes a new heating system and internal wall insulation, and that means that the kitchen sink and units will have to be completely removed so the insulation can be fitted, and then replaced once work is completed.

Old properties are very difficult to bring up to spec as has already been mentioned and there's no funding available for a property that fails the EPC rating, only for properties that have the minimum requirement and need improving.

MissAdventure Thu 28-Oct-21 14:58:38

Yes, I thought it was strange when you said it, too.

vegansrock Thu 28-Oct-21 14:57:27

MissAdventure a strange conclusion to make
don’t agree with tactics=yoghurt pot washer?
Evidence? Surely these don’t equate ? I was comparing those who slag off the protesters as rentamob lemmings who then go onto sanctify their own recycling efforts as if that is all that is needed to tackle the climate emergency. You don’t have to agree with the tactics of this particular group to realise a lot more needs to be done in all areasand understand protest groups are doing what they believe in.