Is Macron sabre rattling?

Some on GN will be terribly disappointed, probably.

I see that the U.K. has been quietly giving out over 100 fishing licences since this nonsense flared up.

Seems we won’t be going to war with France after all.

MaizieD

Peasblossom

How about the other part if my post?

Are you in favour of the no limits demands just for French vessels or for everyone!

I ignored that because, as far as I'm aware, the present foolish dispute has nothing to do with quotas.

The majority of those blockading the port had been issued with licences and were protesting against the conditions of those licences.

One example is fisherman who fished for lobster and mussels who was protesting that his catch had been reduced to mussels only. Jersey fishermen had also had their lobster catch reduced or removed as stocks are dangerously low.

The numbers of fishing boats also need to reduced. The area is seriously over-fished and current levels of fishing are not sustainable.

So, is Jersey to be allowed to try to preserve its marine health or are French fishermen to have their “rights” reinstated, even though Jersey fishermen will not.

Or reinstate the previous levels for all knowing it will take the already precarious seas around Jersey to the point of no return.

Do you really think you are supporting the right cause?

Lincslass * If it comes to the crunch I will back my country and it’s people over any foreign President, French, German whatever.*

Even if we're in the wrong?

Lucca

*Many of you on here clump all British and our nation in the same way, with disdain and ridicule*.

???? No, many on here regard the current government that way not the British people

Absolutely, 100%. This has been explained many many times.

Ok but what did you mean by “all British and our nation”?

Genuinely bemused. I’m pretty sure if you looked the various threads you’d not find many posts saying “the British are rubbish” or similar.

Lucca

*Many of you on here clump all British and our nation in the same way, with disdain and ridicule*.

???? No, many on here regard the current government that way not the British people

We’ll agree to disagree.

Kali2

LOL, it is. One of my very posh Parisian student taught me this one - his dad used it a lot, he said, Head Surgeon at La Salpétrière, no less.

That figures! Scatalogical!

Many of you on here clump all British and our nation in the same way, with disdain and ridicule.

???? No, many on here regard the current government that way not the British people

? Lucca.
Personal insults are wrong. I was feeling ‘got at’.
Silly really.

LOL, it is. One of my very posh Parisian student taught me this one - his dad used it a lot, he said, Head Surgeon at La Salpétrière, no less.

Au c*l la balayette?
A new one for me Kali2. Sounds rude!

Urmstongran

I apologise Lucca. You’re right. That last comment was uncalled for.
Genuinely sorry.

Thank you for that.

If lorries can be stopped from making progress due to undeclared ham in their sandwiches

It's what you voted for, Ug. Third party rules for third party countries.

Peasblossom

How about the other part if my post?

Are you in favour of the no limits demands just for French vessels or for everyone!

I ignored that because, as far as I'm aware, the present foolish dispute has nothing to do with quotas.

You are becoming truly hilarious here, to put it politely.

Passez votre chemin? Allez vous faire fout*e? Au c*l la balayette?

If the USA and the whole of Europe decide to make life difficult for a small island that is ridiculously posturing in thin air - at this stage I think they will. Basta cosi.

Lincslass

vegansrock

Let’s face it the Brexit debacle has given the green light to anti-anyone- foreign xenophobes to voice their opinion of millions of people as in “ the French”, “the Germans”, “the Italians” etc as if everyone of a certain nationality can be lumped together.

Well to be fair and honest. Many of you on here clump all British and our nation in the same way, with disdain and ridicule. If it comes to the crunch I will back my country and it’s people over any foreign President, French, German whatever.

What are you talking about? Most of us on here are British.

I'm afraid though, that I don't subscribe to 'My country right or wrong'.

I don't like my country picking silly fights with its neighbours.

If lorries can be stopped from making progress due to undeclared ham in their sandwiches, I can't help thinking that the UK is justified in not giving licenses to fish, to fishermen who can't provide evidence that they have fished in the relevant waters.

What’s ‘jog on’ in French?

halfpint1

I have lived here over 30 years and I have never ever encountered anomosity towards my nationality.

I have often wondered (especially since I came on Gransnet) why people are so obsessed with the French and how many English people actually know a French person well enough to
form any opinion.

It is beyond belief to say 'the French hate us' , they don't give a toss , they get on with their own lives and their own problems

I don't know any Spanish people or Italian and wouldn't dream of judging them collectively.

It is clear that opinions are formed from the gutter press

I agree halfpint that "The French hate us" saying is banded about far too often. It almost becomes a daily script in certain newspapers.

Long ago, however, when I was to marry into a French family, my French relatives-to-be kindly told me they would love me like their own and that they liked me once they got to know me!. Merci beaucoup!
Back on English soil my mother was refusing to offer any support or encouragement if I went to live in France. Great!
So I more than most know that some underlying animosity must exist.

If the current situation regarding Brexit weren't so serious, it would almost be amusing.

I actually disagree with Jenkins- Brexit is very mcuh part of this too. But not being in the CU and SM is what is causing the most damage currently.

''The UK’s decision to leave the EU was political. So be it. Quite different was the decision also to leave the European single market and free trade area, which was the personal choice of Johnson to aid his campaign against Theresa May. It was ill-considered and foolish. The price is now being paid by pig farmers and fruit growers, healthcare managers, transport sector recruiters, builders, hoteliers, musicians and Ulster unionists. Hardly a single gain has accrued to leaving the European market. Meanwhile, a widening 10-point gap exists between those who think Brexit a bad deal for the country against those who still think it good.

Every woe currently descending on Johnson’s head is attributable not to Brexit but to the loss of the single market and customs union. ''

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/nov/01/fish-france-johnson-broken-britain-european-single-market

the full article

vegansrock

Let’s face it the Brexit debacle has given the green light to anti-anyone- foreign xenophobes to voice their opinion of millions of people as in “ the French”, “the Germans”, “the Italians” etc as if everyone of a certain nationality can be lumped together.

Well to be fair and honest. Many of you on here clump all British and our nation in the same way, with disdain and ridicule. If it comes to the crunch I will back my country and it’s people over any foreign President, French, German whatever.

How about the other part if my post?

Are you in favour of the no limits demands just for French vessels or for everyone!

I mean Liz Truss saying to the French President 'sort it ... or else'

or else what? They are just making themselves look total fools and the whole country with it, sadly.