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Pensioner poverty

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Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Nov-21 13:44:22

Heard of Keynesian economics and money supply? I won’t bore going into it, but that will give you an idea as to where the rethink is taking place in macroeconomics.

Google it it will be quicker than me laboriously typing it out.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Nov-21 13:34:27

Perhaps you would humour me then and give me the evidence as I’ve obviously missed it.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Nov-21 13:28:07

Germanshepherdsmum

Really? You have evidence you can produce to support that statement I assume?

If you have to ask that question, then you haven’t been keeping up.

Lincslass Tue 16-Nov-21 13:24:25

Think I remember the austerity drive was EU led
www.bbc.co.uk/news/10162176

Lincslass Tue 16-Nov-21 13:15:46

I know what you mean Pepper59. If it wasn’t for my NHS pension, I really don’t know how I, and others like me would manage. On the basic state pension as DWP don’t have any records of my early years work in the NHS. Had to accompany spouse overseas, so guess they lost track of me!! People forget not everyone is on the new rate.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Nov-21 13:04:14

Really? You have evidence you can produce to support that statement I assume?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Nov-21 13:01:35

Germanshepherdsmum

wwm wasn’t that promise made before the pandemic? And wasn’t austerity a direct result of the financial crash which wasn’t caused by any political party?

All political not economic decisions

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 16-Nov-21 13:00:27

wwm wasn’t that promise made before the pandemic? And wasn’t austerity a direct result of the financial crash which wasn’t caused by any political party?

Pepper59 Tue 16-Nov-21 10:37:19

Yet to hear some, not all of the younger generation, all us pensioners are rolling in money, having five holidays a year and living in huge houses- I wish!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Nov-21 10:11:51

The Tories promised that it would remain in place until 2024.

Charleygirl5 Tue 16-Nov-21 10:08:50

I appreciate that 8% interest is a lot but we are not exactly receiving £30,000 a year and it is cynical and unfair to change it this year for their own ends. They may think we will have forgotten by the next election- I do not think so.

LadyGracie Tue 16-Nov-21 09:46:14

No surprise really was it? Par for the course. I refuse to get my knickers in a knot.

Just think, a member of the House of Lords gets more for logging in per day than pensioners get in a week.

Greta8 Tue 16-Nov-21 09:45:55

Thank you for this @Whitewavemark2. It's absolutely disgusting and infuriating. I really feel for single pensioners of either sex - how they manage I don't know, especially with all the increases in food prices, energy, etc. Even with pension credit it must be a hard existence. There's also a huge difference between pensioners that have always been able to pay into workplace pensions. Many women of the Waspi type age and older never had that option as due to no childcare they were often in part time roles.

Abolishing the triple lock at a time of rising inflation is typical of the Tories, a cynical money saving exercise at the expense of the elderly. I absolutely don't buy into this inter-generational thing either -(having said that we have helped our adult children lots) it's just the Tory way of pitting one section of society against another for their own ends.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 16-Nov-21 08:57:21

The following figures are from the Joseph Rowntree Foundation.

In 1996 at the end of years of Tory government, 41% of single woman pensioners were classed as being in poverty.

Within 10 years and as a result of Labour government policy this had dropped to just 18%.

The Tory party introduced austerity - as a political policy- in 2010 and in the attempt to mitigate the harm to pensioners Nick Glegg argued for the triple lock which was accepted.

Never-the less single woman pension poverty has now begun an upward trajectory and by the end of 2020 stood at 27%.

Expect to see a big rise by the end of this year as a result of the government refusing to honour their pledge over the triple lock together with a steep rise in the cost of living including fuel and food - absolute basics and essentials.

Yesterday they voted to cease the triple lock just at a time when the pensioner in poverty will feel the biggest and hardest affects.