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So, if you don't like Boris......

(262 Posts)
kittylester Sun 12-Dec-21 08:49:18

who would you like to replace him - from either side?

Or is he the best of a bad bunch?

Luckygirl3 Sun 12-Dec-21 15:15:05

Caring - not carting!!!!

Luckygirl3 Sun 12-Dec-21 15:14:10

If it has to be a Conservative I would name Jesse Norman - a good constituency MP and has put his career on the line at times in his voting. However I believe he did vote Boris in.

He wrote a book called "Carting Conservatism" in which he harks back to what he sees as the real spirit of the party that has been corrupted. I think he somewhat naive on this score, in spite of his erudition. However, he does have a discernible sliver of integrity.

If it has to be a Tory then please please God do not let it be Gove.

On the Labour side, Jess Phillips might fit the bill.

Nezumi65 Sun 12-Dec-21 15:07:56

Or spend 5 minutes on Twitter

Nezumi65 Sun 12-Dec-21 15:07:08

I don't want to get sued so won't repeat it, but Gove is well known for his recreational activities. Have I Got News For You seemed to be aware of this given their comment about Gove in this week's episode.

Forsythia Sun 12-Dec-21 14:32:42

MayBee70

And who might they be? Yvette Cooper, Wes Streeting et Al. Crikey, we don’t want people like that in government, do we confused?

I agree with you, we certainly don’t.

Alegrias1 Sun 12-Dec-21 14:26:04

Forsythia

And I have seen no evidence that he isn’t.

Teacheranne - your time has come smile

MayBee70 Sun 12-Dec-21 14:24:42

And who might they be? Yvette Cooper, Wes Streeting et Al. Crikey, we don’t want people like that in government, do we confused?

Forsythia Sun 12-Dec-21 14:18:24

It’s not Sir ‘Keith’ that is the problem. It’s those who come with him.

Forsythia Sun 12-Dec-21 14:17:32

And I have seen no evidence that he isn’t.

Riverwalk Sun 12-Dec-21 14:16:56

Severnsider

If we did elect Sir Keith - how would he get us through this Covid disaster? No one seems to know what to do for the best. Might as well stick with Boris.

I'm inclined to think that most people would trust Sir 'Keith' to at least tell the truth and take the job seriously.

Alegrias1 Sun 12-Dec-21 14:16:36

Forsythia

Gove may be dislikable to some as a person but if he is competent and serious as a politician then that is what is needed in these unprecedented times.

I've seen no evidence that he is either competent or serious.

Forsythia Sun 12-Dec-21 14:14:17

Gove may be dislikable to some as a person but if he is competent and serious as a politician then that is what is needed in these unprecedented times.

Curlywhirly Sun 12-Dec-21 14:12:32

It was only yesterday that I said to my husband that Gove had gone very quiet, and was he up to something?!! I think he's definitely plotting to swoop in as soon as there's a sniff that Johnson is on his way out.

Severnsider Sun 12-Dec-21 14:10:15

If we did elect Sir Keith - how would he get us through this Covid disaster? No one seems to know what to do for the best. Might as well stick with Boris.

Teacheranne Sun 12-Dec-21 14:02:29

Lucca

Anyway it would obviously be the dreaded Gove weasel. He’s been very very quiet….biding his time.

Please, not Gove, I absolutely detest him from when he was in Education, his policies made my job a misery.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 12-Dec-21 14:00:40

Sunak has threatened austerity. Our economy is struggling so much. It would the worse possible decision.

Curlywhirly Sun 12-Dec-21 13:58:50

*charisma not charism!

Curlywhirly Sun 12-Dec-21 13:57:41

MayBee70

Perhaps we should contact Murdoch and ask him who he has lined up for us?

You certainly have a point there MayBee70!
Although not a Conservatuve myself, I would choose Rory Stewart (although he's no longer an MP, so it couldn't happen!). I thought he was a very decent chap with integrity in spades. PM if it were Labour - I'd be fine with Keir Starmer, seems an honest and very honourable man. But for charism alone, I also think Chuka Umunna would have made a great leader of the Labour Party- wonder what he is doing now he's no longer an MP?

Kali2 Sun 12-Dec-21 13:57:20

kittylester

Isn't it strange that not many people do warm to Keir Starmer - I wonder why?

Sadly because too many people either want an entertaining clown as a PM, or want to vote for extreme left wing policies that would destroy our economy even more.

I have certainly 'warmed' for KS- a calm, intelligent, well-informed, well-educated, experienced man who puts the health of the nation and its people before his political ambitions.

Boring, many say- give me 'boring' any day, after what we have seen with Trump and Johnson. I would never say boring myself, but use the adjectives above.

Blossoming Sun 12-Dec-21 13:53:13

I think it will be Rishi Sunak, but Gove and Hunt are both wily operators and can’t be written off.

I’d prefer Nicola Sturgeon but she isn’t interested in the job.

varian Sun 12-Dec-21 13:50:12

Good idea MayBee

After all no UK PM has ever been elected in a general election in more than forty years without the support of Rupert Murdoch.

Or - perhaps we cut out the middle man and just have Murdoch as PM - except we can't because he's not even British!

MayBee70 Sun 12-Dec-21 13:36:58

Perhaps we should contact Murdoch and ask him who he has lined up for us?

Alegrias1 Sun 12-Dec-21 13:30:17

Lucca

Anyway it would obviously be the dreaded Gove weasel. He’s been very very quiet….biding his time.

That's what I think Lucca. He's been playing the long game.

Santana Sun 12-Dec-21 13:29:27

The Clangers should make a good cabinet, with the Soup Dragon in charge as PM.
All that unintelligible whistling and glugging, then disappearing down a hole half the time.
No, just a minute, we have them already!

Lucca Sun 12-Dec-21 13:29:00

Anyway it would obviously be the dreaded Gove weasel. He’s been very very quiet….biding his time.