The Queen’s speech

I’m not a monarchist nataturbe but I recognise the fact that we are a monarchy here, whether I like it or not.

Looking at the sheer number of charities with royal patronage,
( not far off 3,000!) it seems that they should perhaps have less ....then they could do more visits and achieve more.
Then they would no doubt be accused of not supporting enough charities, so they can’t win really.
Thought it was funny that the website for Harry’s charitable patronage directed people to a porn site.?

No matter what they donate to whom, we the taxpayers, still fund their lifestyle, while they amass more money.But monarchists will always attempt to justify this.

Grany but they still do donate and are patrons of certain charities, just their patronage alone is worth a lot to any charity surely.

giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

Nope...

Grany but they still do donate and are patrons of certain charities, just their patronage alone is worth a lot to any charity surely.
I’m a Republican too, but can see what a good job the present Queen has done for very many years.
There won’t be enough years ahead for Charles probably, but I think that William will do a really good job for the UK in the future.
I think in any referendum to keep/ abolish the monarchy there will never be enough votes to abolish them, not in the next 50 years anyway.

Lovely to hear from you again Grany. Keep it up!

Anniebach

If their interests are private how can anyone say they pour money into them ?

It means RF spending public money daily on their own interests.

Should get a set amount based on what is actually needed

If their interests are private how can anyone say they pour money into them ?

lemongrove

A few Scottish members have very thin skins and yet dish out their dislike of England at every opportunity, it’s beyond tedious.

There is a subgroup of English people, quite a small group, who are consumed by perceptions of the superiority of their own nation. So when another nation just doesn't want to be part of the English club, they can only conceive that it must be because they are disliked. When in fact, it's just indifference. Complete, unadulterated indifference. ?

lemongrove

nataturbe What do you suppose the RF should do? How do any of us know what charities they donate to?
Yes, they enjoy a wealthy lifestyle but look what comes with it!
Which is why Harry escaped off to the US, he just wanted the
wealthy lifestyle not all the responsibilities.

Giving Evidence in its independent report found charities do not benefit from royal patronage as RF do not visit over 70% of charities only those that they are interested in and near to where they live.

They have a wealthy lifestyle spending public money daily on their own private interests, nothing is ever said.

Don't know why we still have a RF

You've got it in one Lemon!

nataturbe What do you suppose the RF should do? How do any of us know what charities they donate to?
Yes, they enjoy a wealthy lifestyle but look what comes with it!
Which is why Harry escaped off to the US, he just wanted the
wealthy lifestyle not all the responsibilities.

Guy Mannering is of course by Walter Scott, We also read W.H Davis, who was Welsh,so perhaps I should have said British Literature. Yes lemon Middlemarch is a fantastic read.

Who’s lording it over them? By whose perception? How are they doing it?
As usual on GN, please supply evidence.

A few Scottish members have very thin skins and yet dish out their dislike of England at every opportunity, it’s beyond tedious.

Anniebach

Yes I would nadateturbe I would feel very guilty having a holiday home too.

Ah I'm with you now Anniebach. lol. Oh I don't feel guilty at all. I would if I had free use of more than one luxury holiday home for life with servants and all amenities thrown in. As it is, I worked bloody hard with unpaid overtime in a stressful low paid government job whilst paying tax to fund you know who. Whilst coping with M.E. and doing all my own housework. Do I feel guilty? No.

But if you would feel guilty owning a holiday home whilst there are people in need would you not think the same should apply to the RF?

Alegrias1

I'm nobody's subject.

Not now, not ever.

None of us are, are we!

Why do some people keep assuming that? Harking back to the past.

It says 'Citizen' on my passport.

That's such a relief, Alegrias!

Phew. You can sleep sound tonight Elegran

I don’t think anyone anywhere likes somebody ‘lording it’ over them come to that.
I am a Republican but think the Queen has done an amazingly good job.

No * Elegran* it isn’t you.

I love Middlemarch Jaberwok

If the other Scottish poster is me, Lemongrove, I don't think I qualify, as I am English born and bred. However, I have spent 65 years of my life here, so I have learnt a little about how Scots react to anyone "lording it over them", either by birth or by assumed superiority. In fact, it is much the same as my own English parents and grandparents would react.

History was my favorite subject at school closely followed by English Literature and I've read both extensively over the years. We did 1688, The glorious revolution, - 1820, Death of George 111rd for O'level, fascinating period and a relative breeze. The Corn Laws for A.level were far less so!! This was made up for though by the books we did for literature A'level. Middlemarch and Guy Mannering were two favorites.

MaizieD

I thought it was a nice address. I liked that there was a nod to others who have been bereaved this last year.

I did notice the slight clothing 'fails' that people have commented on but really don't think they were worth even mentioning. Looking a little for symbolism in her clothes and jewels and thought the blue brooch looked a bit odd, then realised, red dress, white pearls and blue brooch. I understand that she is always careful in her choice of jewellery for public appearances.

I agree MaizieD
It was thoughtful and indeed, it was courageous of her to talk about her bereavement so publicly and so soon after.

Lots of elderly people lose weight and body mass, often quite rapidly.