Horse Puncher sacked from teaching job

Don't see what that's got to do with anything MissAdventure and certainly not with a woman who was surreptiously filmed and then castigated and abused on social media.
It amuses me that some people think it's wrong to slap a horse but think punching another human being for a living is OK. I know which I find most abhorrent but would I stop either of them from teaching ? Well no I wouldn't. Unless they committed some unprofessional act whilst they are in a working role I really don't give a F* what they do in their own time. If it's illegal the law should punish them and then they should be professionally dealt with. But this trial by media and all these people who think slapping a horse is worse than punching a human being ,well it is laughable. But it shows British standards remain. People can do what they like as long as they don't (do it in the road and) frighten the horses.

I know somebody who got a verbal warning because a service user sent her a message on facebook expressing concern.

The worker messaged back to say "you will have to take this up with the company as that is our policy".
She was told that her contract stated she was not to enter into anything at all, from the service users, ever.

Nothing justifies an innocent animal being abused she has a nature not to be trusted. She should not be allowed any job that holds responsibility she does not deserve too.

trisher trying to draw a comparison between a boxer who willingly gets into a boxing ring with his opponent and fights for money and a woman punching and kicking a tethered horse is so daft is laughable - did you mean it as a joke?

I would imagine almost every single job contract must heavily stress the importance of not bringing the company into disrepute even outside of work.

trisher

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trisher

So if we are judging teachers by the way they behave outside the classroom should we then say anyone involved in any organisation or sport which has any element of cruelty involved in it should be judged unsuitable to teach? What about boxers? They hit other people in the face, not a horse. Are they then liable to hit children?

Oh come on, really? All these 'what abouts' are just a distraction here. Those taking part in sports such as boxing are there of their own free will. The bottom line here is that the woman was wrong to treat the horse in that way. No amount of ifs and buts and what abouts will change that.

It's not a distraction it's a genuine interest in where we draw the line. It seems to me that someone who is prepared to punch another human being in the face (even if the opponent is willing) must have developed a certain insensitivity to the consequences of that punch, (which can involve severe brain damage). If Sarah Mould was lacking in the qualities needed to be a teacher isn't someone prepared to damage another human being just as lacking?

Teachers have long been judged on how they act outside the classroom. There was a case not that long ago where one was sacked because of her Only Fans account. As I've said several times on here, no matter how you try to deflect from the main topic here with 'ifs, buts and what abouts', the bottom line is that this woman's behaviour was indefensible.

One of my exes was a semi professional kick boxer.
He was the most gentle, kind person you would ever meet.
Do you think is hiding a secret hankering to abuse animals?
He was a competitive sportsman, not a bully.

trisher I am sorry but you are defending the indefensible why?

I guess it’s because Ms.Moulds is/was a teacher, unfortunately being in the teaching profession does not give one permission to act as she did nor does it mean that just because you are a teacher you are whiter than white.

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trisher

So if we are judging teachers by the way they behave outside the classroom should we then say anyone involved in any organisation or sport which has any element of cruelty involved in it should be judged unsuitable to teach? What about boxers? They hit other people in the face, not a horse. Are they then liable to hit children?

Oh come on, really? All these 'what abouts' are just a distraction here. Those taking part in sports such as boxing are there of their own free will. The bottom line here is that the woman was wrong to treat the horse in that way. No amount of ifs and buts and what abouts will change that.

It's not a distraction it's a genuine interest in where we draw the line. It seems to me that someone who is prepared to punch another human being in the face (even if the opponent is willing) must have developed a certain insensitivity to the consequences of that punch, (which can involve severe brain damage). If Sarah Mould was lacking in the qualities needed to be a teacher isn't someone prepared to damage another human being just as lacking?

I've worked on farms, always kept animals myself and can honestly say that anyone who, under any circumstances, kicks and punches a tethered animal is abusing a power the animal never has and is doing a cruel, violent and inhumane thing.

If I had done what she did I would expect exactly the treatment she has had both officially and unofficially.

grannysyb

Trisher says that the woman was trying to control the horse, she had it under control as she was holding the reins. There was absolutely no need to kick and beat the animal. If she loses it like that with a horse perhaps she does with children. People who make death threats are appalling.

Come on, trying to control the horse!. She is a disgusting bad tempered woman, she looked furious with the horse. A horrible way to treat a defensive animal.

Wouldn’t surprise me

Yes obviously that's the logic that we would follow tickingbird.

I think the power goes to some people's heads - they get enjoyment out of bullying vulnerable beings.

A deputy head has just been imprisoned along with her boyfriend for the rape and sexual abuse of children. Obviously far, far more serious than what the huntswoman did but I hope nobody comes along with any but…….on this one.

There a many jobs that are not suitable for people with quick tempers and a cruel streak (carers, nurses, doctors, vets, social workers, infact anyone working with vulnerable people) it's not just teachers. The woman might very well have been a good teacher in other respects, but her volatile nature with that horse is a red flag in her profession.

Excuse me, I'm just looking for my very tiny violin...

This was not a knee jerk reaction on behalf of her employers, they conducted a six week investigation, Ms.Moulds has also been expelled from the Pony Club Association and the RSPCA is investigating the incident.

Perhaps some if the children she taught will have seen the video. They may think 'If she does it then it must be OK'. She shouldn't be anywhere near a classroom.

What a nasty , bad tempered woman.
It made me so upset to see that video.
The poor horse looked so frightened.

As others have said - can you imagine a less suitable job for this woman to be a primary school teacher and to work with animals.
Thank goodness she was filmed otherwise she would have carried on thinking this was acceptable behaviour.

trisher

So if we are judging teachers by the way they behave outside the classroom should we then say anyone involved in any organisation or sport which has any element of cruelty involved in it should be judged unsuitable to teach? What about boxers? They hit other people in the face, not a horse. Are they then liable to hit children?

Oh come on, really? All these 'what abouts' are just a distraction here. Those taking part in sports such as boxing are there of their own free will. The bottom line here is that the woman was wrong to treat the horse in that way. No amount of ifs and buts and what abouts will change that.

The people they hit in the face are willing opponents.
Never seen a horse in a pair of boxing shorts sparring.
Also, boxers and the like are as a rule, extremely careful not to ever use their moves outside of the ring.

trisher

So if we are judging teachers by the way they behave outside the classroom should we then say anyone involved in any organisation or sport which has any element of cruelty involved in it should be judged unsuitable to teach? What about boxers? They hit other people in the face, not a horse. Are they then liable to hit children?

If a boxer or even a professional martial arts person uses their skills outside of the ring/dojo they lose their licenses.

So if we are judging teachers by the way they behave outside the classroom should we then say anyone involved in any organisation or sport which has any element of cruelty involved in it should be judged unsuitable to teach? What about boxers? They hit other people in the face, not a horse. Are they then liable to hit children?

Maizie if you follow any hunt sab groups you will see that they find a lot of evidence of cruelty to animals and humans, and they regularly present this evidence to the police but very few prosecutions are brought. The Cottesmore where this woman was filmed is a supposed ‘trail’ hunt which is a cover for illegal fox hunting. I agree that there are many hunts which do not break the law, and do not hunt the scent of a fox, most notably bloodhound packs which hunt ‘the clean boot’ or the scent of a human runner. They provide all the pleasures of riding out across country with none of the hazards of foxhounds following a scent on to roads, train tracks, into people’s gardens etc.

This woman knew she was being filmed, she obviously didn’t care. I do not condone death threats or mob rule, but I do feel she was not suitable for the position she held as a teacher.