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Liz Truss claims £3000 of taxpayers money for a “business” lunch

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vegansrock Mon 03-Jan-22 08:01:04

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/02/liz-truss-hosted-3k-lunch-for-us-envoy-over-civil-service-objections?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Liz Truss initially wanted to claim £3000! Civil servants refused and she got the bill down to £1400 ( from the Tory donor restaurateur) . This at a time when she was voting to reduce UC by £20. 5 bottles of wine all costing over £100 and 2 bottles of gin were on the bill- wonder how they got any “business” done? I also wonder why they didn’t dine at the House of Commons restaurant?

GillT57 Mon 03-Jan-22 16:03:09

Nice bit of attempted, but failed distraction there Lemon. We are not discussing what Starmer may or may not do and your snarky comment about sandwiches is just that. What is incensing most people is the dismissal of other equally good (and expensive) restaurants in favour of one owned by the Tory donor half brother of Zac goldsmith. Remember him? The failed MP who was given a seat in the House of Lords by his pal Johnson.

Josieann Mon 03-Jan-22 16:21:44

Sandwiches?

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 16:28:17

Oh do give it up people!
Where do you live? Do you know the price of good restaurants in cities in the South of England? Obviously not.
I expect it was thought to be a good idea if the restaurant had links with a Tory donor, less likely to be leaks from conversations that ensue and a good price given ( which was given in the end.)
It doesn’t need ‘distraction’ .....all it needs is a sensible approach and a knowledge of what good restaurants actually cost.Some posts on here are laughable.

Doodledog Mon 03-Jan-22 16:32:22

I know the price of good restaurants, yes. I also know the price of reasonable ones that are far more suitable as places to have a working lunch on taxpayers' money.

I know how much designer clothes cost too, whether bought in the North, South or Midlands, but that doesn't mean that I would approve of their being paid for out of public money as 'expenses'.

As you say, though, confidentiality may have been an issue, so they may have been better off having lunch on site.

Galaxy Mon 03-Jan-22 16:33:32

I dont know if it's a good restaurant though, it has some pretty awful reviews and some good ones to be fair.

JaneJudge Mon 03-Jan-22 16:35:17

I live 30 minutes from central London via train if that helps
Royalty have dined in my local pub grin

Josieann Mon 03-Jan-22 16:37:43

Galaxy

I dont know if it's a good restaurant though, it has some pretty awful reviews and some good ones to be fair.

Royalty JaneJudge. You've just reminded me that Meghan and Harry had an early date at 5 Hertford Street! grin

GrannyGravy13 Mon 03-Jan-22 16:38:05

Well I am off out to a good restaurant with family now for youngest GC 2nd birthday celebrations, I will leave you all to your ruminations.

Doodledog Mon 03-Jan-22 16:39:27

JaneJudge

I live 30 minutes from central London via train if that helps
Royalty have dined in my local pub grin

I understand that Pizza Express can boast an elite clientele. They seem pretty good about confidentiality, too, from what I can gather.

As a bonus, you can get money-off vouchers for them - it just takes a quick google.

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 16:39:49

I very much doubt that dining on site Galaxy would have guaranteed confidentiality! Too many flapping ears from all sides of politics.
A high profile trade delegation from the US would expect to be dined somewhere good and somewhere private.

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 16:41:50

GrannyGravy13

Well I am off out to a good restaurant with family now for youngest GC 2nd birthday celebrations, I will leave you all to your ruminations.

Ruinations is too grand a word for it GG13....it’s mainly moaning for the sake of it, faux outrage and fun.?

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 16:45:08

Eee, by gum! I were lucky to get a bag of chips and scraps!
If that were good enough for me then it’s good enough for them...
coming over ‘ere from the US and wanting fancy food indeed!

Josieann Mon 03-Jan-22 16:45:53

lemongrove

GrannyGravy13

Well I am off out to a good restaurant with family now for youngest GC 2nd birthday celebrations, I will leave you all to your ruminations.

Ruinations is too grand a word for it GG13....it’s mainly moaning for the sake of it, faux outrage and fun.?

No it's a brilliant word lemongrove!
Meaning - chewing the cud! Great food imagery.

Josieann Mon 03-Jan-22 16:49:00

Or did you actually mean "ruinations"? The meal could cause the ruination of LT too!

Coastpath Mon 03-Jan-22 16:51:53

When there are discussions like this people always seem to say, 'Well there are much more important things to worry about.' It seems to me though that the little things add up. There is a drip, drip, drip of little things - meals, decorators, rules broken, Uturns - it all adds up to a big thing to worry about doesn't it?

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 16:52:20

???????????
True...it’s what they do all day long.
Not people though...we hope.
Huh! Spell check changed it to ruinations?

Josieann Mon 03-Jan-22 16:54:57

lemongrove

???????????
True...it’s what they do all day long.
Not people though...we hope.
Huh! Spell check changed it to ruinations?

I hate to tell you - lowering the tone here - but before I posted my predictive text changed round the r and the u at the front! shock
Lucky I checked it!

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 16:57:54

There are constant leaks from the civil service ( moles within)
Causing drips, even those with no substance such as this meal for trade envoys.
Can anyone really imagine the public getting het up in say, France, it would be what they expect, their politicians wining and dining for trade reasons.
That’s possibly because France ( and many other countries) have a healthy respect for food and a pragmatic approach to what needs to be done.
Chicken nugget, anyone?

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 17:00:43

Haha Josiann ..that may have been appropriate though, as this thread is a bit of a piss take.grin

vegansrock Mon 03-Jan-22 17:07:02

I’ve had lunch in Michelin* restaurants in London for much less than £ 70 per head , they quite often have lunch specials, mind you I wasn’t drinking wine at £150 per bottle. Weatherspoons might have been a good choice mind you. Truss was desperate to get US trade deal much trumpeted, hadn’t happened though.

Beanutz2115 Mon 03-Jan-22 17:10:07

I do most wholeheartedly agree with you but nothing will change until we have proportional representation, or some kind of voting system that is fair. I lived in Surrey for many years and no matter who I voted for it made no difference, I always felt my vote didn’t count.

Alegrias1 Mon 03-Jan-22 17:29:01

Oh, £1,400 pounds for a business lunch is nothing.

How about £22k for Polish lessons. For a Polish-born person. Who already speaks fluent Polish. confused

theworldnews.net/uk-news/taxpayers-foot-bill-for-tory-mp-to-get-ps22k-worth-of-polish-lessons

GillT57 Mon 03-Jan-22 17:32:57

For the last time, I am neither concerned or impressed by what this dinner cost, it is not exceptional for a decent restaurant. What I am concerned about is other similar standard venues being rejected in favour of one owned by a Tory donor, but if it suits you to think it is due to some kind of reverse snobbery you are wrong.

lemongrove Mon 03-Jan-22 17:35:48

Amazing isn’t it? That Parliament pays out for any MP who wishes to learn a language or upgrade their fluency in any given language.That said, I don’t think all that many will bother to avail themselves of it ( thankfully.)

Alegrias1 Mon 03-Jan-22 17:44:41

Oh I'm all for MPs learning foreign languages, that can only be a good thing. Just find it a bit weird that someone needs to spend £22k to learn a language he already knows confused