Emmanuel Macron intends to ‘piss off’ the unvaccinated.

Lemongrove that's unfair and a little mean. We can all relate anecdotes but there are 000s of NHS staff out there looking after us and we may have stopped clapping but I'm bl**dy grateful.

Macron is a little man with a big opinion of himself. I'm not quite sure what he has said but I'm pissed off by his views and that of many others.
People keep banging on about Anit-vaxxers. Just because someone has not been jabbed does NOT make them an anti vaxxer. Everyone has the right to refuse WITHOUT the consequences Macron and his like want to bestow on them.
There was an article in the newspapers the other day regarding a medication used in pregnancy some years ago (not thalidomide). It is however, still causing untold damage to thousands of 3rd generation women including cancer. So, please don't say there are no risks to these vaccines. Only the future will tell us that.

Josieann

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Josieann

Casdon you're right, it does contain the excrement word, but that in itself is used a bit more mildly in French than in English.

Did he say “faire shier “?

Nope, faire chier would gave been pretty vulgar!!

He used the expression '"emmerder les non-vaccinés"'

I wonder what would have happened in the past if enough anti-vaxxers had refused to have the smallpox/polio/diphtheria vaccines…?

When I was a small child I contracted polio’ from the polio’ vaccine but I am still in favour of vaccination and think that it is our strongest tool in tackling this pandemic. Macron is right in what he is advocating and his choice of language only emphasises that he means business.

grandtanteJE65 There is a paywall on thé Parisien on thé text regarding the interview. This was printed by France24
Dans un entretien accordé au Parisien,
"Les non-vaccinés, j'ai très envie de les emmerder. Et donc on va continuer de le faire, jusqu'au bout. C'est ça, la stratégie", a clamé Emmanuel Macron dans un entretien au Parisien.

I totally agree with Galaxy! And I will never agree with compulsory vaccination nor with punishing those that choose against it as I see this as the thin end of the wedge!

I had Covid at the end of 2019 beginning of 2020 and it was deadly. I was 79 at the time and thought I was breathing my last. I told my D that if I ever had a dose like that again it would see me off.

Only for me having the stamina and staying power I was able to fight it off. If I'd have rang emergency services I know I'd have been whizzed into hospital but the thought of catching something else on top of what I had put me off.

Jillyjosie

Yes but as others have said over and over, the vaccine will stop the virus making most people seriously ill and needing hospitalization. The latter threatens to overwhelm the NHS.

17 000 in hospital now and around 300 deaths a day. Why do so few people seem to care about the medical staff who have been working flat out, understaffed and underfunded for several years now. The kind of person who goes into medicine isn't the sort who takes sickies at the drop of a hat. I think droves of them are leaving or intending to leave soon. What will the selfish do when the dedicated, unselfish doctors and nurses walk away?

The nurse in our family constantly complains of other nurses taking ‘sickies’ for flimsy reasons, so you mustn’t believe the hype over ‘angels’ !
Add to that, until recently some nurses often chose to be unvaccinated themselves.Quite a lot of them choose never to have the flu jab either.

It would be easier to join in here if one of you would kindly write what he actually said, I haven't seen the original French interview.

Considering the language in general use these days, people can choose to be offended if they like, but most of them probably use the expression themselves.

The main point is his policy regarding those who refuse to be vaccinated, not how he expressed it.

The sooner all countries make their citizens realise that refusing to be vaccinated or to observe the other precautions necessary to save potential lives the better.

Why in Heaven's name should these inconsiderate people get away with anti-social behaviour?

sazz1 To keep the NHS and staff open looking after other people.

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Well said sazz1. A slippery slope towards who knows what sanctions in the name of ‘public safety’

I'm fully vaccinated 3 jabs but I'm totally against restricted access, fines, etc for those who choose not to have it. It's a basic human right to refuse any medical treatment or procedure unless you are under a mental health section. So should all people who don't want kids be sterilised, everyone over 80 have compulsory DNR, what else should be sanctioned and where will it end?
And those saying unvaccinated make them feel unsafe why?
The vaccine doesn't stop you getting it or passing it on. It just reduces your need for hospital treatment, and from dying of Covid. There is no evidence that unvaccinated pass it on more than vaccinated people. No figures or research on this.
So why do we need vaccine passports?

Yes but as others have said over and over, the vaccine will stop the virus making most people seriously ill and needing hospitalization. The latter threatens to overwhelm the NHS.

17 000 in hospital now and around 300 deaths a day. Why do so few people seem to care about the medical staff who have been working flat out, understaffed and underfunded for several years now. The kind of person who goes into medicine isn't the sort who takes sickies at the drop of a hat. I think droves of them are leaving or intending to leave soon. What will the selfish do when the dedicated, unselfish doctors and nurses walk away?

I didnt hear the man, but can gather by the thread today it wasnt very polite.Cant stand the man, but his remark has caused a few comments on here so its going to be effective I am sure.

I think most people have understood for a long time that the vaccine lessens your chance of serious illness kjmpde. The fewer people are hospitalised the better for all of us.

the reaction to the vaccine ultimately caused my brother's death. so i share you concern. 98% safe is not 100% safe

As the vaccine does not stop you from a) catching Covid and b) passing covid to others
then why should people be forced to have it? if you read the wording on the NHS website it clearly states "SHOULD" stop you catching covid or transferring it to others. the words do not state WILL NOT ... Years ago i worked in a shop and people used to come in and ask for NON FAT ice cream but in actual fact the label was NON DAIRY FAT . people need to read the actual words .

Alegrias1

Perhaps they should be made to wear badges, maybe yellow stars on their coats, what do you think?

Or all made to stay in camps, that would work.

Unfortunately I think a lot of people would be happy to go down that route.
Psychoanalysists will have a field day in the future about life under Covid and how it takes the public mind.

Alegrias1

^only takes out the people ( usually elderly) with underlying health problems!^

There goes Gransnet's core demographic then....

Is idiotic a word we're allowed to use on GN?

Why not? I use it sometimes and think it often.

I sympathise EV but perhaps you would be far more ill, needing intubation, even die, if you were to catch covid. I felt appalling after having my first jab and dreaded the second but there were no side effects at all with it and just a bit achy after the booster. I really do urge you to talk it over with your GP.

only takes out the people ( usually elderly) with underlying health problems!

There goes Gransnet's core demographic then....

Is idiotic a word we're allowed to use on GN?

I dont like the word ‘mandatory’ about any action by government. Have none of you been awake and listening these past 2 years!!

All nonesense…… my daughter…son in law…. grandson…. and granddaughter all had their jabs. I’ve had my triple dose …. my friend and husband had their three doses …. We’ve all had Covid AFTER the jabs. No more for most people than a bad cold! Just like the annual flu epidemic …. only takes out the people ( usually elderly) with underlying health problems!