Emmanuel Macron intends to ‘piss off’ the unvaccinated.

I agree too, unless of course you're medically exempt from having the vaccine but there can't possibly 5 million in France.

They should be thankful they don't live in China.

This may be the first time in my life that I am almost grateful to have Johnson as PM instead of some other European leaders. I am sure this feeling will pass. It is never a good idea to demonise a section of society.

Good for him! At least there is one politician who is prepared to tell it like it is and put the safety of the citizens above sucking up to voters.

These unvaccinated people are not being demonised; they are just being told that there are some things they will not be able to do, for the safety of the majority.

I am not allowed to get on a bus and wave a gun around - I am not being demonised; I am being told what cannot be done for the safety of others.

Actually what he said was worse than that, I think the press have censored it - it’s a word I remember from my A level French!

My friend in Athens is being fined 100 Euros a month because she has not had the vax. She says she can't have it because last time she had a vax of some sort, she became anaphylatic, but that makes no difference in Greece.

While people are refusing to be vaccinated, the rest of us are being penalised by not being able to lead normal lives.

He could have done this without using swear words. Think those not vaccinated will get the message.

Casdon

Actually what he said was worse than that, I think the press have censored it - it’s a word I remember from my A level French!

Yes, I'm not surprised he used the word in frustration, that I can understand, but I'm shocked he said it about his countrymen for others to hear. It is used in private and in families, but frowned on in public. I think he will upset a few citoyens.

Piss off is the correct translation in this context Casdon. Macron also said that if you act irresponsibly that you are not a citizen. Behaving as a citizen is fundamental to life in France; if you see an accident then you have to stop; if you see someone in distress then you have to help. I hadn't understood how fundamental fraternity and the rights and duties of citizens are, until I lived here.
It is one of the things I like most about France.

Even if we are all vaccinated, it doesn't mean the virus will go away, just like that. People will still get the virus until it has burnt itself out.

Just look at the number of people who have been triple vaccinated yet have still caught covid.

My friend's DS and DIL are antivaxxers. Last year the DIL and one GC had covid. Just before Christmas the whole family traveled to Italy. The MIL who had traveled from her home (in Italy) to her DD's flat in the Dolomites, tested positive and so they turned around and went home. My friend's DS and the other 2 GCs also tested positive.

So, one family of 5 have all had covid and have been quite ill. All because my friend's DIL thinks that the vaccine hasn't been adequately tested. DS and DIL are quarantining in Italy. The 3 young people flew back to the UK ( 2 with covid ) and are now isolating in their own home.

Who did he say it to please Mamie, do you know?

My French teacher told us it meant to s..t on ….. Mamie, does the same word have several meanings? I agree with his philosophy, but maybe not his language.

Casdon you're right, it does contain the excrement word, but that in itself is used a bit more mildly in French than in English.

All because my friend's DIL thinks that the vaccine hasn't been adequately tested
BIL's friend, double vaccinated, caught Covid before the boosters came out; he has been in hospital for weeks and nearly died twice. He's not that old (62), was fit with a young family and still working. He is still recovering very slowly at home.

A friend told me that a double vaccinated local woman (aged 50) died within a few days of contracting Covid. She was fit and still working.

There is still much to learn about the virus and why it affects some people so badly even if vaccinated..

Perhaps the use of provocative language was deliberate, knowing that it would probably gain maximum publicity.

He would have been well aware that his choice of phrase would be pounced upon.

Josieann

Casdon you're right, it does contain the excrement word, but that in itself is used a bit more mildly in French than in English.

Did he say “faire shier “?

I think our own Johnson is not unacquainted with swearing - didn’t he say “fuck business” when business people complained about his policies?

Lucca

Josieann

Casdon you're right, it does contain the excrement word, but that in itself is used a bit more mildly in French than in English.

Did he say “faire shier “?

Nope, faire chier would gave been pretty vulgar!!

*have

I believe it was said in an interview after a row in parliament about trying to block the change in legislation from pass sanitaire to pass vaccinal, so negative tests will no longer count and you will have to be vaccinated for entry to bars, restaurants, cinemas etc.
Watching the news it sounds as if more people approve than disapprove of what he said.
Casdon merde does mean shit and emmerder can mean anything from annoyance to something much stronger. But here 'I am going to piss them off" (and not let them into bars etc) is closest.

Josieann

Lucca

Josieann

Casdon you're right, it does contain the excrement word, but that in itself is used a bit more mildly in French than in English.

Did he say “faire shier “?

Nope, faire chier would gave been pretty vulgar!!

Oops sorry chier not shier !!
Ah pour emmerder then.

Surprising so much fuss about his language choice ( hardly that bad!) He’s a lightweight compared to Angela Rayner in that dept.?
However I do not believe in demonising those who refuse to be vaccinated ( for whatever reasons) or treating them badly.
I don’t believe that the UK would ever go down that route thank goodness.

I'm all for freedom of choice - under normal circumstances. In this world pandemic situation, though, the unvaccinated (by choice) have no right to limit, and endanger, the lives of others.

I think he has it spot on (shame about the language, though) and he's caught the mood of the majority.

I suspect the majority of people in many countries would be of the view that those who refuse to be vaccinated should be punished in some way.
Equally I suspect compulsory vaccination wouldn’t be universally acceptable, so denying the refusers access to a variety of establishments seems like a reasonable ‘punishment’ to me.
If we didn’t have approximately five million still unjabbed here, wouldn’t we be in a much better position right now?