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Is Boris Johnson revealing who he really is?

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growstuff Tue 11-Jan-22 08:19:54

This is the opinion of one New York Times journalist:

www.nytimes.com/2022/01/10/opinion/boris-johnson-britain-bills.html

varian Wed 12-Jan-22 13:41:02

Johnson was sorry he'd been found out. Sorry for himself.

You would think that a successful social networker like him would recognise a party when he wandered into one, but apparently not.

Poor Boris.

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 13:35:07

lemongrove

Well.....all depends on what powers the civil servant had doesn’t it? If he had the clout to issue invitations to all those junior to him ( employees at number ten) or if he had to run it past Johnson first.That will no doubt come out pretty soon.

Irrelevant as Johnson attended, and his wife. If he disapproved, he would have cancelled, or at least NOT attended.

Boz Wed 12-Jan-22 09:41:13

Many years ago, Johnson was interviewed during the election process that brought in May after Cameron resigned and asked as to why he wasn't running for PM at that time He said that he didn't think he had the right attributes to be PM! Yet, he becomes the poster-boy for the Brexiteers and the leader of his Party.
He has always been a front man and you have to admit the Tories read the voters right in said voters desire for a populist leader to get Brexit done.
It is about time the voters recognised Gravitas as a virtue in leadership not Goonery.
I want a leader that is not sniggered at by other World leaders. Don't you?

lemongrove Tue 11-Jan-22 23:37:46

Well.....all depends on what powers the civil servant had doesn’t it? If he had the clout to issue invitations to all those junior to him ( employees at number ten) or if he had to run it past Johnson first.That will no doubt come out pretty soon.

silverlining48 Tue 11-Jan-22 23:13:51

Would doubt that a civil servant would take it upon himself to arrange a party without his bosses say so, especially as it was to be held in said bosses garden, would have been rather presumptious and think the wording was ‘we’ implying mr and Mrs zjohnson who were both present apparently.

lemongrove Tue 11-Jan-22 22:21:19

Gill your conscience is clear? Because you are a Labour voter??
The outcome if Johnson hadn’t got into number ten when he did would have allowed the numpty Corbyn in there.
Of course some posters will agree with you, and I would say that the smugness is on that side, not mine.
I have never read such ridiculousness such as ‘my conscience is clear’ because a poster voted for a different political party in a GE.

Niobe it looks as if a senior civil servant did take it upon himself to issue invitations to almost a hundred employees (although it appears that only around thirty accepted.) The Johnsons obviously were aware of it though as they attended, or so it is being said, so he must take the blame.

MayBee70 Tue 11-Jan-22 22:18:54

Greta

I almost felt sorry for Paymaster General Michael Ellis today in the HoC. He just repeated the same answer, i.e. we mustn't speculate about the party, we have to wait for the investigation. It sounds as if our PM can't recall if he was present at this drinks party withhout an inquiry confirming or denying he was. It's all just getting too ridiculous. Also, can we take it that the 30 or so persons attending the party will be fined? I think it's Sue Gray who is conducting the inquiry, let's hope she wasn't at the party...

You know what it reminded me of. Those natural history programmes where lots of penguins are shuffling around in a group pushing other penguins forward because they don’t want to be the first penguin to jump into the sea because they know there are predators waiting there. Same thing with which MP has to do the breakfast tv interviews. I do sometimes feel a slight sympathy with them. But it doesn’t last long….

Iam64 Tue 11-Jan-22 21:58:35

Niobe - exactly. Leaders. Relate team cultures. The team around Johnson appears to follow his lead. Do as I say, not as I do

Niobe Tue 11-Jan-22 21:08:45

One thing puzzles me about this whole debacle. Would a Civil Servant, however senior, really take it upon himself to issue invitations to a ( illegal) gathering at No10 without permission from the PM? Especially when the country was facing a major lockdown?
Is that why he has not been sacked already ? Who really gave the go ahead to issue invitations? Or am I reading too much into this?

mokryna Tue 11-Jan-22 19:36:45

Kim19

Saw an MP on telly this morning defending the No 10 garden gathering as being a thank you to those attending because they had been putting in 18 hour days with regularity. BYOB a treat? And........ why weren't they working from home like the rest of us? Furthermore he referred to their workplaces as 'grubby little office's in 10, 11 &12.

Maybe they should have had a larger work space as my daughter had at that time.

Lovetopaint037 Tue 11-Jan-22 19:23:43

I go along with that article. Well said and if we let it happen then we are fools. I have just signed the Best For Britain petition in an attempt to stop the infringement of our rights to protest. Behind the rolls of gold wallpaper and wine fuelled jollies there are other things to concern us.

Kali2 Tue 11-Jan-22 19:22:41

I am not a betting person- but I could make an exception, just this time.

Will he

Won't he (turn up for PMQ).

GagaJo Tue 11-Jan-22 18:51:14

GillT57

Can I be first please? I think Johnson will "test positive" for covid19 soon and will not attend PMQs tomorrow. grin

Bet there'll be no revelatory gratitude towards the NHS this time.

Greta Tue 11-Jan-22 18:51:12

I almost felt sorry for Paymaster General Michael Ellis today in the HoC. He just repeated the same answer, i.e. we mustn't speculate about the party, we have to wait for the investigation. It sounds as if our PM can't recall if he was present at this drinks party withhout an inquiry confirming or denying he was. It's all just getting too ridiculous. Also, can we take it that the 30 or so persons attending the party will be fined? I think it's Sue Gray who is conducting the inquiry, let's hope she wasn't at the party...

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:50:50

James Oh Brien
@mrjamesob
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I’ve often wondered how the little boy felt when everybody else finally admitted that the emperor was stark bollock naked. Nearly there, perhaps.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:47:39

Whitewavemark2

He won’t turn up

I think you may be correct Whitewavemark2

I think his days are numbered now.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:45:58

He won’t turn up

MaizieD Tue 11-Jan-22 18:42:40

I wonder if Johnson will have the same baying mob behind him at PMQs tomorrow as he did last week.

Alegrias1 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:39:44

There was a DUP MP on the news just now, asking a question in parliament today, who started to cry when he told how his MIL died alone. How does Johnson sleep at night?

MaizieD Tue 11-Jan-22 18:38:42

Strange how the Brexit voters are oblivious to the stated aims of the ERG faction that comprise the government majority (and so hold the whip hand) . I've run through them a couple of times in this thread alone and have mentioned them on others.

I'm a bit curious as to precisely what glory can be gained from having the most incompetent, corrupt and authoritarian UK government since universal suffrage...

GillT57 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:38:05

Can I be first please? I think Johnson will "test positive" for covid19 soon and will not attend PMQs tomorrow. grin

Coastpath Tue 11-Jan-22 18:24:16

This is so upsetting. Whilst they were partying at No.10 the reality for others was unbearable and will stay with them forever. Not just this lady but many other people telling similar heartbreaking stories in their replies.

If he was there I think he owes it to these people to admit it.

twitter.com/SusanlLawson/status/1480814851014471680

Kali2 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:20:33

Whitewavemark2

The whole thing is becoming farcical.

Johnson is waiting for the outcome of the investigation to ascertain whether he attended the party.

As are a number of other MPs and ministers.

Just seen the questionning in the House today- hardly any Tory MPs there and an empty Front Bench. The poor man (whoever he is!) trying to defend the indefensible looked very lonely. I almost felt sorry for him

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:20:32

Question

How far can we trust the enquiry into the parties as they are being investigated by someone chosen by Johnson and who will report to Johnson before anyone else sees it?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 11-Jan-22 18:18:26

HIGNY

“Tense days ahead as Boris Johnson waits to find out if inquiry ordered by Boris Johnson finds that Boris Johnson attended a party at Boris Johnson’s house”