Will we have a new PM by the end of the month?

GrannyGravy13

maddyone

Yes, I agree. Good points Alegtias. Of course I already knew that MPs are elected by their constituents but it’s amazing how many people when interviewed on tv say they voted for …….who is actually the leader of the party rather than their particular potential MP. You see it every general election.

Yes maddyone I agree.

Unless there are some changes for the better in the Conservative Party I will probably not vote next time round. Our constituency MP is very good, but I find myself politically homeless at the moment.

Please vote. Spoil your ballot card if need be by writing on it “None of the above”. It’s important.

Ilovecheese

HolySox said "This a consequence of 10 years of austerity, that being a consequence of the financial crisis under Labour."
I think they meant the international financial crisis caused by the deregulation of the banking system, not Labour.

Allsorts said Look what Corbin got away with! I don't understand, what did Corbyn get away with?

Yup, the old favourites being trotted out, I shall get out my bingo card, have my pen poised over the 'Starmer let Savile off' accusations which will surely be next. Good grief.

maddyone

Yes, I agree. Good points Alegtias. Of course I already knew that MPs are elected by their constituents but it’s amazing how many people when interviewed on tv say they voted for …….who is actually the leader of the party rather than their particular potential MP. You see it every general election.

Yes maddyone I agree.

Unless there are some changes for the better in the Conservative Party I will probably not vote next time round. Our constituency MP is very good, but I find myself politically homeless at the moment.

Yes, I agree. Good points Alegtias. Of course I already knew that MPs are elected by their constituents but it’s amazing how many people when interviewed on tv say they voted for …….who is actually the leader of the party rather than their particular potential MP. You see it every general election.

Good post JenniferEccles, very fair and I feel the same.

Last time round Jeremy Hunt v Boris Johnson.

MPs are elected by constituents. The party leader of the Conservative party is chosen by fellow MPs whittling down those who put themselves forward. When the final two candidates remain the party members then vote.

It would be very interesting to do a Poll in Uxbridge.

Well many of us would like to see Mr Johnson voted out by his constituents.

But right now I'd just be happy with him not being PM, then in a couple of years the voters of Uxbridge can decide for themselves if he is a suitable man to represent them in Parliament.

Alegrias1

I might be wrong but I think most people who have commented about wanting him to resign want him to resign as PM, not as an MP.

The only people who voted for Johnson were the people of Uxbridge. The rest of the country who voted Tory because they thought they wanted Johnson as PM might be enlightened to know that the Tory Party can replace him any time they want - it doesn't matter who you want for PM, the party in power get to decide.

All PMs are "unelected", except by the people in their own constituency.

I know that Alegrias1 I would like to see Mr. Johnson voted out by his constituents.

Normally going into an election the electorate know the leaders of the parties and therefore the choice of prospective PM. This worked against the Labour Party last time as there were many many voters in the anyone is better than Mr. Corbyn camp.

I might be wrong but I think most people who have commented about wanting him to resign want him to resign as PM, not as an MP.

The only people who voted for Johnson were the people of Uxbridge. The rest of the country who voted Tory because they thought they wanted Johnson as PM might be enlightened to know that the Tory Party can replace him any time they want - it doesn't matter who you want for PM, the party in power get to decide.

All PMs are "unelected", except by the people in their own constituency.

It wouldn't have mattered a jot who'd been in power when the pandemic struck as anyone would have demanded vaccinations all round, it would have been the first thing on anyone's mind I'd have thought.

This is a very interesting situation that BJ's in at the moment.

Thanks GrannyGravy. Very good points. In a democracy the people should decide.

maddyone

Very good post JenniferEccles yesterday at 17.27.
Just wondering why you’d prefer for BJ to lose his seat at an election rather than be deposed by number 10 GrannyGravy?

He think he is a man of the people therefore the people should decide.

If he is deposed from within the U.K. will have yet another unelected PM.

Very good post JenniferEccles yesterday at 17.27.
Just wondering why you’d prefer for BJ to lose his seat at an election rather than be deposed by number 10 GrannyGravy?

JenniferEccles your post yesterday was balanced.

I am not a fan of Mr.Johnson however, I would prefer to see him lose his seat at an election than be deposed by No.10 leaks and the media circus.

JenniferEccles balanced post 17:27 yesterday

Its interesting, isn't it?

Libman asked what the ERG was and somebody answered her yesterday, with the actual explanation of what they are.

Then today we have someone trying to say that they are all angelic souls just trying to get to the truth. Just trying to gather information that's all, nothing to see here.

People will fall for anything. That's how we've ended up here.

Libman

ERG? Would someone expand for me please?

I will answer your question, others like to fling the term around without really expanding on why they dislike it so much. This intrigued me . Not saying I am enamoured, but sure other parties have background groups gathering information.
ukandeu.ac.uk/the-facts/what-is-the-european-research-group-erg/

Haha....same minds Holysox

Excellent post Jennifer. He should have thought about what he was doing for sure, but he is only human, and this happened right at the beginning.

He went on to do all the things you say....very well in my opinion, but of course the anti Boris brigade will always only focus on the slip ups.

Good points JenniferEccles 17:27 yesterday. I think we have benefited from Boris being a bit if a maverick, willing to push for things rather than tread overly cautiously at every step. Shame this work event in the garden has been grossly misinterpreted. As Boris said, in hindsight, not his best move.
Of course had he pulled up at the time and forced out then we'd probably be back in lockdown now waiting for booster roll-out but with higher cases and deaths.

They also wanted to work together, so they could buy in bulk at a much lower price. Which they succeeded in doing. Can't remember how much more the UK is paying per vaccine, but the total cost is humongous!

The EU were concerned about the safety of the vaccines. By all accounts the govt agreed to proceed with the vaccinations without the usual fail safes if the vaccines had an adverse effect.

You can praise him to the skies but he and his govt are now planning to sell off The Vaccine Manufacturing and Innovation Centre near Oxford, much to the dismay of many scientists. This facility was announced in 2018 to help the govt respond to future epidemics and has received £200 million in public funding. Yet another piece of family silver to disappear.

It depends entirely on what the reaction to the next revelation is Visgirl. I don’t think for a minute that this is the end of it.