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Will the Nation accept an apology? Will you?

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Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 12:59:55

I won't, for sure.

FannyCornforth Wed 12-Jan-22 14:13:20

It doesn’t matter, as he’s clearly on borrowed time

MaizieD Wed 12-Jan-22 14:12:44

He disputes that most of the reported parties were parties at all.

Like he disputed that driving 250 miles when suffering from covid was wrong?

He was probably at the parties he claims weren't parties, like the one he was photographed at...

I would take Cummings with a pinch or two of salt.

ExDancer Wed 12-Jan-22 14:11:45

Shouldn't they all pay a fine? How much was it? I have the notion that it was up to £1000. (Money to go to NHS?)

Zoejory Wed 12-Jan-22 14:08:31

I've just read this rather over lengthy blog of Cummings with regard to these parties.

He disputes that most of the reported parties were parties at all.

It was very common for them to work outside. They would be there late. They'd be milling around discussing work, especially when the weather was good.

As he points out it was far better to conduct work outside due to a large amount of people being inside causing more problems.

However this party with the email was a party that he was opposed to.

As for Boris, I thought he'd have gone by now but I'm beginning to think he might just get away with it.

PS Not a Boris fan, not a Conservative and yes, I did lose a family member in April 2020.

It's quite an interesting article, no matter what you think of Cummings

dominiccummings.substack.com/p/parties-photos-trolleys-variants

Wheniwasyourage Wed 12-Jan-22 14:07:15

Apology not accepted. He must think our heads button up the back if he thinks we will accept it!

Casdon Wed 12-Jan-22 13:52:08

Yes MayBee70 it does matter very much where the leaks come from, because we need to know the extent of the corruption. Boris will be desperately seeking scapegoats.

MaizieD Wed 12-Jan-22 13:50:47

Dinahmo

gillyknits

We are being manipulated by Dominic ,Cumming who releases drops of information to tarnish the prime minister.

Do we know that this has come from Cummings?

I'm not sure. Someone leaked the email. It 'may' have been Cummings, who was still in post at the time, but would he have been a recipient of the email?

He has certainly blogged that he advised against the party at the time, so he was aware of it.

It's laughable to think that Cummings is the only person who could 'tarnish' the PM. He was heavily tarnished before he even became PM.

MayBee70 Wed 12-Jan-22 13:48:37

Does it matter where it comes from if it’s about true illegal events?

Dinahmo Wed 12-Jan-22 13:43:35

gillyknits

We are being manipulated by Dominic ,Cumming who releases drops of information to tarnish the prime minister.

Do we know that this has come from Cummings?

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 12-Jan-22 13:42:48

I agree with MOnica.

Dinahmo Wed 12-Jan-22 13:42:32

No - apology not accepted.

I've been wondering about all the Tory MPs who've popped up on the media to respond to questions about Boris resigning. Refusing to acknowledge that we don't know if he's done anything wrong despite being informed about the rules that were in place back in May. Perhaps they could be de-selected?

EllanVannin Wed 12-Jan-22 13:39:28

BJ hasn't been hard enough in my estimation.

Casdon Wed 12-Jan-22 13:37:41

It’s naive to assume these leaks are down to Dominic Cummings alone, this is coming from the heart of the Tory parliamentary party. He’s just the gun, not the bullets.

MissAdventure Wed 12-Jan-22 13:35:02

I think we'll get what we're given, whether we accept it or not.
Nobody cares a jot about what the public want.

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 13:31:32

DC can only dig a hole because he has the spade, the dynamite and the facts.

M0nica Wed 12-Jan-22 13:30:11

No, it is a resigning issue.

I appreciate Dominic Cummings is digging the hole undr Johnson, but if Johnson hadn't done everything he is accused of , Dominic couldn't do the dirty on him.

What no one seems to have highlighted and I am surprised Keir Stramer didn't pick it up, is that the tone and culture of a work environment is set by the persdon in charge. All these parties happened because everyone knew that Boris didn't give a sh*t what the rules were that he was binding on others as long as he could ignore them.

Can you see this sort of wholesale partying happening if Keir Starmer or Teresa May had been in charge? Of course you wouldn't, because both are honest and honourable people and Boris is neither

westendgirl Wed 12-Jan-22 13:27:28

Gillyknits if the prime minister acted with integrity Cummings would have no way of "tarnishing "him . I don't remember Teresa May having such charges laid at her door.

Audi10 Wed 12-Jan-22 13:27:18

It’s a Big fat No from us !

EllanVannin Wed 12-Jan-22 13:27:00

There's going to be no nursing staff soon. Then what ?

EllanVannin Wed 12-Jan-22 13:25:16

The way I see it is that from the first hint that a pandemic had started off in China, everywhere in this country should have been shut down----airports especially, and they weren't !
Hordes of people were crowded at Heathrow, why ? People should have been turned back to isolate for a month from whence they'd come from.

I would have liked to have seen a full lockdown and it didn't happen----no use crying over spilt milk after everyone had been infected. It's been utter madness from start to finish and as for vaccinations being a " softener " I don't buy into that as an apology either. They're not the be all and end all when we still have thousands who are infected and not all of them are unvaccinated either. Fully jabbed most of them !

There shouldn't have been any travelling done whatsoever !

westendgirl Wed 12-Jan-22 13:24:16

He has lied and stretched the truth too often for his apologies to have any meaning.

gillyknits Wed 12-Jan-22 13:23:30

We are being manipulated by Dominic ,Cumming who releases drops of information to tarnish the prime minister.

Oldbat1 Wed 12-Jan-22 13:22:42

No not acceptable - it was a weak apology as he still doesn’t believe he is in the wrong.

Lucca Wed 12-Jan-22 13:20:20

Oh he didn’t bring up the vaccine again did he ? (Sorry I haven’t watched it yet)

Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 13:18:51

His reply to Starmer and others was pathetic- and again- after a short apology, went on the praise his vaccine response- hiding behind it- as though it had anything at all to do with it! Just repeating 'ah but didn't I do well with the vaccine' like a robot!