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Will the Nation accept an apology? Will you?

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Kali2 Wed 12-Jan-22 12:59:55

I won't, for sure.

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 14:44:51

Chestnut so now you are ‘crying with laughter’.
You really are being very insensitive now.

Alegrias1 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:40:04

Read the other posts.

Line overstepped.

Chestnut Thu 13-Jan-22 14:39:09

Alegrias1

*Chestnut*, you are unbelieveable.

I realise I'm on your 'blacklist' so anything I say will be pure poison to you. We all have our opinions and I guess some of the recent remarks on this thread must be really winding you up ?

Grandmamaoftwo Thu 13-Jan-22 14:37:25

Michael Rosen yesterday on Twitter, quote…

‘It’s my party, I’ll lie if I want to’

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 14:36:53

Certainly not by my workplace.

hilz Thu 13-Jan-22 14:35:36

I am sure that during that time many other workplace 'meetings' were held countrywide. I don't agree that it was right as many of us went through heartache and fear, but the pressure for those making such huge decisions at a time where the country and indeed the world were trying to deal with a little known virus was immense. I just wish they and the PM. were open and honest about their actions when first challenged about their behaviour during this and other incidents.

FannyCornforth Thu 13-Jan-22 14:35:06

Chestnut your last post was, to use a cliche, so wrong on every level

MayBee70 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:33:52

Chestnut

Mrsdof

NO! NEVER! My Mum died in hospital at 101yrs old from COVID in Oct. 2020 and the nurse called me to say she only had a very short time left and would I like to speak to her because she was crying for me. I did but it was dreadfully upsetting because she was calling my name and begging me to go and see her, but of course I couldn’t. Every time I see that smarmy bastard making excuses reduces me to tears. My Mum calling for me is something I will never forget sad

Mrsdof It is very sad to hear about your mother, and I'm sure we all send our condolences. But how can you blame Boris when it was the virus that killed her. The virus does what viruses are very good at, spreading from person to person, and your mother was at such an advanced age it is very unlikely she would survive it. You are understandably upset about the manner and circumstances surrounding her death, but I don't see how you can blame Boris for that.

Have you any idea how insensitive to say that an elderly person who dies from covid would have died anyway. It happened to me last year when my 96 year old friend died from covid and the remarks I had at the time still hurt.

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 14:33:22

angry
I'm sure people don't need an explanation about how the virus works.
An explanation about how some are exempt from their own rules because they fancy a 'do' might be more helpful.

Chestnut Thu 13-Jan-22 14:32:21

lemongrove

It was definitely the wrong thing to do ( the garden party) no doubting that to most people, however I must say to those posters who think it was Johnson’s pals there, they were number ten employees.
As to should he resign? A difficult one, yes ( from the point of view of one who would like to see a different Conservative PM in place) and no because we are still unsure how Covid is affecting the country ( both the economy and health) although it’s looking brighter. Spring would be a better time all round for a leadership election.The best thing he could do is to decide to resign then rather than be pushed.

I agree again lemongrove! You always post a sensible suggestion. We need another Conservative PM and not one of that Labour rabble. I have nightmares about Starmer, Corbyn, Abbott, Phillips, Long-Bailey etc. running the country. And don't forget Blair is hovering in the wings and may try to make a comeback.

Alegrias1 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:30:05

Chestnut, you are unbelieveable.

Zeddy Thu 13-Jan-22 14:28:36

He tries to take the credit for the vaccine which was produced and given by innumerable scientists and health workers, it is they who should be thanked not the PM

GillT57 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:25:54

lemongrove

Let’s not resort to ‘stoning’ memes !

Let's not resort to telling other posters what they can or cannot post!

Sawsage2 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:24:14

Dominic Cummings - trouble making devil ?!

Chestnut Thu 13-Jan-22 14:23:49

Mrsdof

NO! NEVER! My Mum died in hospital at 101yrs old from COVID in Oct. 2020 and the nurse called me to say she only had a very short time left and would I like to speak to her because she was crying for me. I did but it was dreadfully upsetting because she was calling my name and begging me to go and see her, but of course I couldn’t. Every time I see that smarmy bastard making excuses reduces me to tears. My Mum calling for me is something I will never forget sad

Mrsdof It is very sad to hear about your mother, and I'm sure we all send our condolences. But how can you blame Boris when it was the virus that killed her. The virus does what viruses are very good at, spreading from person to person, and your mother was at such an advanced age it is very unlikely she would survive it. You are understandably upset about the manner and circumstances surrounding her death, but I don't see how you can blame Boris for that.

lemongrove Thu 13-Jan-22 14:21:17

Let’s not resort to ‘stoning’ memes !

GreenGran78 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:20:42

I haven't had time to read all the comments. I have noted that BJ has cancelled his visit to my home county of Lancashire, where he would have been castigated, due to 'a family member testing positive.'
Do you believe his story, or is it just another convenient lie so that he can hide while the dust settles?
I think that it's probably just another of Boris's fibs.

lemongrove Thu 13-Jan-22 14:19:19

It was definitely the wrong thing to do ( the garden party) no doubting that to most people, however I must say to those posters who think it was Johnson’s pals there, they were number ten employees.
As to should he resign? A difficult one, yes ( from the point of view of one who would like to see a different Conservative PM in place) and no because we are still unsure how Covid is affecting the country ( both the economy and health) although it’s looking brighter. Spring would be a better time all round for a leadership election.The best thing he could do is to decide to resign then rather than be pushed.

GillT57 Thu 13-Jan-22 14:01:34

lightallan

Let he who has not transgressed throw the first stone.

Lucca, do you have a stone throwing meme I could use please?

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 13:58:48

lightallan

Let he who has not transgressed throw the first stone.

There must be a lot of transgressors on here, is my conclusion.

Bromley Thu 13-Jan-22 13:58:38

Not from a liar and a cheat

Cossy Thu 13-Jan-22 13:58:31

Reply to F1Grandma2

No he shouldn’t resign. He has done a great job since the pandemic began. There was no precedent to follow and I don’t think the current opposition party would have done any better. All I’ve heard is criticism not suggestions about things might be done better. Yes, he made a mistake and he should have apologised earlier. I’m sure he isn’t the only parliamentarian, across all parties, who has gone against ‘the rules’. It just so happens that he got caught out and others didn’t. He didn’t kill anyone - the virus did that, or added to other underlying conditions speeded up someone’s death. This event happened so long ago and we must move on. I accept his apology, am grateful for my vaccines and booster, and look forward to post pandemic life. If Sir Kier had had his way we would have been locked down for the last 2 years and still would be! Then where would the economy be…..

Not at any point have I heard Starmer or any other party leader state we should have locked down for two years however what I have heard them say is we should have heeded other countries infected and affected before us and licked down sooner and SHORTER !

Please explain what marvellous things this PM has done, I must have blinked and missed it ! And please don’t say “got Brexit done” as that’s yet another cock up and partly to blame for our lack of staff in many sectors !

MissAdventure Thu 13-Jan-22 13:54:48

We've yet to find out who they were.
Nobody is going to apologise until they're backed into a corner; just like Johnson.

homefarm Thu 13-Jan-22 13:54:03

No, I won't. He should resign.

Cossy Thu 13-Jan-22 13:53:47

Honestly folks you’re all missing the point ! The question wasn’t about Keir Starmer, whom some of you are condemning and probably know absolutely nothing about him or his background, the question was about are own Eton educated PM who thinks lying is accepted and has the moral compass of a weasel ! Half hearted apologies once caught out are the work of spoilt four year olds ! He’s our PM for pity’s sake and needs to be an exemplary role model in all areas of his life ! Stop deflecting about what Starmer or anyone has done !! Btw what has Starmer done ??