Has our country ever been in such a state?

MayBee70

At least we no longer have the embarrassment of Farage and Widdecombe representing us in the EU Parliament I suppose (trying to look on the bright side here….).

Seeing as we are not in the EU anymore, doesn’t matter.

Dinahmo

Growstuff If only people, like some of the posters on here, took more notice of the news from a number of different sources perhaps, the country might be in a better position. I despair sometimes at their lack of knowledge and/or interest.

There's plenty of money available for Tory councils I think.

No you are wrong. Our Tory council just as money poor. It’s the ones down South that benefit. As for your condescending comment about other commenters, well I’m lost for words.

Watching QT now and not a single person on the panel supporting Johnson, not a single one. Not even the Conservative one.

Curlywhirly

MayBee70

Currently listening to Rory Stewart being interviewed on Sky News. I may be a Labour supporter but I could weep when I think that the country could have had someone like him as PM. He’s in a different league to Johnson. He even admits that what he is saying is from a biased position having lost to Johnson in the leadership election.

Me too. What an honourable man - no wonder he left politics, he's far too principled to be an MP ?

He seems too principled (and humane) to be a tory, really.

I wonder why he plumped for them originally...

I know he has a proper home together and has no addictions,

From what I've heard from time to time I wouldn't be too sure about the 'no addictions'...

MayBee70

Currently listening to Rory Stewart being interviewed on Sky News. I may be a Labour supporter but I could weep when I think that the country could have had someone like him as PM. He’s in a different league to Johnson. He even admits that what he is saying is from a biased position having lost to Johnson in the leadership election.

Me too. What an honourable man - no wonder he left politics, he's far too principled to be an MP ?

If I had a pound for every time I heard those words!

EllanVannin

It's just been one big party since 2016. I'd like to bet that BJ got in under false pretences, but proving it when most of them are liars is difficult. I knew it would end in tears, I could see it coming. Any idiot could have taken us through the pandemic !
QT tonight should be interesting.

May the Raving Loony party reign.

Yes I too shall be watching QT. I wonder who will be wheeled out to speak for the Tories? I shall watch with a glass of wine and have a drink every time he/she diverts the subject to vaccination programme. Probably have to be put to bed before the end of the programme

Seems as though the Machiavellian dark arts practiced in the Whip’s office is nothing new ...

“Social media has also "changed everything", according to one former whip. "The days a whip could lift an MP off their feet by his tie and start squeezing his testicles are over," they said.

"You'd end up in prison if you tried that today – and rightly so – but these days MPs are very much in control of their own messaging. Also, a lot of these newer MPs come from professional backgrounds. They've had jobs outside politics and they are not going to put up with any nonsense that wouldn't stand up to scrutiny in a corporate HR department."

It doesn't matter that there is no obvious replacement for him, anyone, but almost anyone, would be better than having our country represented abroad by a serial liar and cheat who looks permanently as if he has slept under a hedge and is probably on something addictive.

I know he has a proper home together and has no addictions, but that makes it worse, that he doesn't need either to look as if he does

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EngTech

If Boris goes, who will replace him?

Be careful what you wish for ?

I'm under no illusion that the next PM would be fairly awful too.

However, I do think that, as a country, we should be led by somebody with moral/ethical values and Johnson is a disgrace. If he's allowed to stay I think it reflects badly on everybody who is prepared to ignore his lies and contempt for those he's supposed to be leading.

Currently listening to Rory Stewart being interviewed on Sky News. I may be a Labour supporter but I could weep when I think that the country could have had someone like him as PM. He’s in a different league to Johnson. He even admits that what he is saying is from a biased position having lost to Johnson in the leadership election.

QT tonight for sure!

It's just been one big party since 2016. I'd like to bet that BJ got in under false pretences, but proving it when most of them are liars is difficult. I knew it would end in tears, I could see it coming. Any idiot could have taken us through the pandemic !
QT tonight should be interesting.

May the Raving Loony party reign.

At least we no longer have the embarrassment of Farage and Widdecombe representing us in the EU Parliament I suppose (trying to look on the bright side here….).

If Boris goes, who will replace him?

Be careful what you wish for ?

I wonder if one of them will wait until he (or she) is confident of being able to win the leadership and will then speak out.

GillT57

Lincslass

No you can’t consider every Minister is complicit, although suits many on here to think so. What should be evidenced is proof of this , otherwise it is just he says etc. If true it is despicable, but can’t throw all into the same box.

I agree with your point, but surely by not speaking out, the other members of the cabinet are complicit? Too many people focusing on their own career progression rather than representing the very people who put them there.

Yes I agree, they need to speak out, otherwise the mess will continue, and Boris will carry on.

FarNorth

How this link works. It shows Christian Wakeford speaking about being threatened that funding for a high school would not be given.

mobile.twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/1484149149700341770

Another "red wall" Tory candidate said something similar before the last election - ie if you don't vote for me you won't get funding for promised improvements. Sorry, I can't remember which one it was. However, when funding for community projects was shared out last year, it was noticeable that it went to "strategic" constituencies.

I don't have proof, but it doesn't seem unlikely that funding is being allocated in this way rather on the need of constituencies.

What on earth has to happen or be disclosed to make Johnson quit? I fear we are stuck with him. I don't believe one word he says anymore. He could tell me tomorrow is Friday and I would go and check the calendar.

Lincslass

No you can’t consider every Minister is complicit, although suits many on here to think so. What should be evidenced is proof of this , otherwise it is just he says etc. If true it is despicable, but can’t throw all into the same box.

I agree with your point, but surely by not speaking out, the other members of the cabinet are complicit? Too many people focusing on their own career progression rather than representing the very people who put them there.

Lincslass

No you can’t consider every Minister is complicit, although suits many on here to think so. What should be evidenced is proof of this , otherwise it is just he says etc. If true it is despicable, but can’t throw all into the same box.

Wragg stated in his announcement this morning that Government ministers and spads had apparently taken part in blackmail.

It doesn’t suit me, I would much rather have a Tory government that was honest, competent and with integrity, that allowed me to oppose or support their policies rather than having to deal with all the rubbish.

As far as I am concerned, unless proven otherwise I consider none of them fit for government.

No you can’t consider every Minister is complicit, although suits many on here to think so. What should be evidenced is proof of this , otherwise it is just he says etc. If true it is despicable, but can’t throw all into the same box.

How this link works. It shows Christian Wakeford speaking about being threatened that funding for a high school would not be given.

mobile.twitter.com/BBCNWT/status/1484149149700341770