So while our government is debating on what constitutes a party, how many parties may have been held a couple of years ago, there's a terrible threat to world peace going on at the edge of Europe. Anybody else noticed?
I agree with you Chewbacca. We are most certainly not alone. Where are these people getting this nonsense from?
When I was working I would do my job and go home at the end of the day, they shouldn't have parties, drinks events or 'working" lunches fueled by alcohol, at any time, brexit, covid, potential war threats or any other scenario. Do they have so little to do? How can they concentrate or make sensible decisions? As far as I know drinking when at work is a stackable offence. No one drinks and drives, likewise no one should drink and work, I find their attitude disgusting and highly inappropriate and yes they should be focusing on the issues the country and the world faces.
Tbh, I can't be bothered with this thread anymore, these 'on our own 'comments are more than ridiculous and not worth discussing. I'm still at a loss over my supposed geographic comments. I'm out!
do I gather Galaxy that you are a woman , or perhaps an enlightened man , who can multitask and think of more than one things at a time like Boorish (sorry Boris ) Johnson.
I think next years well used phrase to come out top will be something like " We need to Sue Grey that" Or maybe " This is not a black and white question . we need to Sue Grey it!
Ukraine was a major story on the BBC News last night, and has been for several days, also in what we used to call the broadsheet press. I don't agree that it's been overtaken by party gate or P. Andrew.
We are powerless, the EU is powerless. Putin isn't bothered by talk. No need to blame our govt (about this, I mean).
Our mps are being shown are childish and embarrassing the world is falling apart around them and all they seem to be bother about is bloody parties that happen last year and let be honest how many people broken the rules to some extent
We've seen a lot more fighter jets over North Yorkshire recently, hope we are not going to get physically involved beyond helping with armaments and training Ukraine troops. As Ukraine is not in NATO we have no obligations. The Baltic States are another matter though. The Germans wont get involved as they are more interested in their oil supplies for industry.
I'm currently reading Putin's People by Catherine Belton, he's been into sowing discord since his KGB days in Dresden in the then East Germany.
General Richard Dannatt said in a interview on tv this morning that scratch Putin to the core and you will find an unreconstructed KGB colonel whose beloved Warsaw Pact and Soviet Union was destroyed by the cohesion of the West when the Berlin Wall came down so that now his ultimate aim is to undermine NATO by sowing discord and doubt among member states.
I don’t see how the Germans can avoid getting involved. They are NATO members - indeed, the Commander of the Allied Joint Force Command at its Netherlands HQ is a post traditionally taken up by a German General. A bit embarrassing if he had to say “sorry chaps, you’ll have to play without me on this one!”
GB News has had plenty of coverage of the Ukraine/Russia issue for several days now - I find the BBC to be overly obsessed by the current Whitehall "issues" rather than international ones unfortunately. We are helping Ukraine with arms and training, and are sending Ben Wallace to Russia to speak with their defence minister - I'd hardly say the government have been ignoring the issue, shame I cannot say the same for the mainstream media.
Very valid comment. At least we won’t have to worry about energy bills as we won’t have any power if Putin cuts us off!
Jaberwok
Tbh, I can't be bothered with this thread anymore, these 'on our own 'comments are more than ridiculous and not worth discussing. I'm still at a loss over my supposed geographic comments. I'm out!
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UK withdrawing Ukrainian Embassy staff and families. This is starting to look very serious.
tickingbird
UK withdrawing Ukrainian Embassy staff and families. This is starting to look very serious.
As are the USA
Jaberwok
Tbh, I can't be bothered with this thread anymore, these 'on our own 'comments are more than ridiculous and not worth discussing. I'm still at a loss over my supposed geographic comments. I'm out!
I did explain about geography, and about the position/relation of UK withing Europe having changed.
If you can't be bothered to think and realise what a dangerous situation we are in now, then I have to say I can totally understand that ignoring the whole thing and putting head in sand, is tempting, truly.
It would be comforting at this stage to feel we have a strong PM at the helm, a strong Foreign Secretary with experience and a cool head, adn a strong team surrounding them. Alas ...
As for the relevance of geography, but from a different angle.
I found this today, written by a friend, a Brit living in Germany
''This is point where I generally check a map to find out how far I'm away from whatever's brewing.
Not quite far enough is the answer this time.''
never a truer word, and that was written in 2014!!! Multiply this by 1000X and more now. Never mind EU or non EU, Brexit, Schengen, the Single Market or Free Movement- all become totally irrelevant at this stage.
BTW any other GNeters who are members of CND and who marched with me or others in the 80s- because we forecast that MAD was a massively dangerous policy that one day would be tested to the limit by some psychopath or other? Greenham, Molesworth, etc.
As Britain followed America's lead in evacuating embassy staff, EU diplomats announced their staff would remain in the country.
Top European diplomat Josep Borrell added that there was no need to "dramatise" the situation while talks with Russia continue.
Hats off to Denmark, population 5.8m. Sending an extra frigate into the Baltic and four F16 jets to Lithuania.
Denmark have shown that they are decent allies.
What do you mean by 'decent allies'?
You know, if you see a friend or friends going headlong into a terrible, utterly destructive mistake- helping them along is not always the most 'decent' thing to do.
The BBC lunchtime news reported that Ukraine have told them that Russia has removed its diplomats from the Kiev
I was under the impression that it was only the families of embassy staff that are being evacuated, not the staff themselves.
UK withdraws British embassy staff from Kyiv.
Kali2
What do you mean by 'decent allies'?
You know, if you see a friend or friends going headlong into a terrible, utterly destructive mistake- helping them along is not always the most 'decent' thing to do.
Helping be prepared if the worst happens is . Should Denmark just sit back and not help friends . while little friendly Russia is amassing troops on the Ukraine border.
Remember Poland and Czechia. 1938-45, 1948 to 1989.
Oh yes, I remember very well. It is a very different world now.
LincsLass
Not like some countries ? No names mentioned- no pack drill.
Something I’ve been pondering on recently is would Russia be behaving so aggressively now if we hadn’t taken all of our troops out of Afghanistan?
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