Boris and his lockdown birthday party

Oh dear Chestnut. If the government didn’t want to waste time defending themselves against parties they shouldn’t have condoned or attended illegal parties and lied about it, should they? They broke the law they had set, that is the issue. There is masses of visual and written evidence. It’s been referred to the police. The public isn’t stupid when presented with incontrovertible evidence. It’s not those who can see that who are being manipulated.

Nobody is manipulating me Chestnut. I don’t care what eventually gets rid of him. I just want the lying toad out.

Fashionista1

Following on.....Keir Starmer was pictured swigging beer but you don't hear that being mentioned. Also a labour MP was paid £££ by a Chinese spy but you don't hear about that either.

Yes you do but no rules were broken if you check the story about the beer ….

sillynanny. “ I find Starmer as repulsive & ridiculous ”

How is he either of these things? Anything to back that up ?

sundowngirl

Gillycats

I am in awe of so many people getting their knickers in a twist about the party fiasco. Personally I don’t care. I do care about potential war, the economy, crime, social care, education and the NHS. Or haven’t people noticed that there are much more serious issues to be concerned with? Time to move on and let the police and the enquiry to deal with something that many people were guilty of too.

I totally agree with you Gillycats. There are far more important issues to be concerned about. Russia and the Ukraine, the rise in NI, fuel costs rocketing and other cost of living rises, etc etc These 'parties' (not what I would call a party) which breached the rules were over a year ago and are being investigated. I cannot believe the uproar on here. Let's move on and let the government put their energies into more serious matters.

I agree with these two posts. I'd rather the government focused their time and energy on these very important issues than having to waste time defending themselves about parties.

I also think the media are engaged in a witch hunt where information is being released to them by Cummings & Co to bring down the government. Judging by the public outcry here and elsewhere this has worked. People are being manipulated but can't see it.

Ramblingrose22

Breaking news of yet another lie by Johnson.

Johnson personally authorised giving priority to the evacuation of Pen Farthing's animals from Afghanistan despite having publicly denied this.

The man needs help.......and not from anyone in the House of Commons.

He opens his mouth, he lies….

Frankly if he’d have mandated a zero tolerance policy from the beginning then these matters wouldn’t have happened but Boris encouraged them by his attendance, however briefly, and allowing alcohol and obvious relaxation & chatting times at the end of meetings. This wasn’t a cuppa and your own lunch eating at your own desk 2m apart in the office like many endured! This behaviour has caused him to allow the Government to be in this situation. Him personally. He knew it was against his own laws for singing as it had been banned (as could project the virus) yet he allowed people to sing him happy birthday instead of immediately halting it, he also knew that gatherings of over 6 people were banned so 30 people gathered to wish him happy birthday were illegal, as were taking people upstairs to his private apartment to continue. He knew all that and still allowed ordinary people to be fined for similar gatherings of up to £10,000. Totally hypocritical!! His own morals should see him resign but I’m sure he won’t. However at the very least people involved should be fined for breaking the law that governed ALL of the UK at that time and, unlike the Vatican, Downing Street IS very much part of the UK and subject to the same laws that his own Government introduced.

For DH’s last birthday we sat on a bench outside our favourite (lockdowned) restaurant, eating a sandwich, just the two of us. Sick of hearing about no10 parties, wish he would just go.

Fashionista1

Following on.....Keir Starmer was pictured swigging beer but you don't hear that being mentioned. Also a labour MP was paid £££ by a Chinese spy but you don't hear about that either.

You do understand that the alcohol is not the problem?

Fashionista1

Following on.....Keir Starmer was pictured swigging beer but you don't hear that being mentioned. Also a labour MP was paid £££ by a Chinese spy but you don't hear about that either.

You hear it mentioned all the time. But none of it was illegal which is why none of it sticks.

I like many have missed so much. I couldn't be with my sister nor say good bye as she lost her life to MND. My DH couldn't visit his brother, who spent 16 weeks in hospital as they couldn't get a care package in place so he could die at home, no visitors allowed, he die in hospital. We couldn't celebrate our Ruby Wedding with our loving family. We couldn't see our grandchildren for well over a year.
Boris Johnson has lied and partied throughput and I'm getting so fed up with people saying he did a good job. We have lost so many family, friends and colleagues. So much public money has been wasted and so many of their friends have benefitted whilst others have lost so much. Boris goes on about how he sorted out the vaccination program, no he didn't the NHS did.
I'm just so fed up of life as we know it at present.

Following on.....Keir Starmer was pictured swigging beer but you don't hear that being mentioned. Also a labour MP was paid £££ by a Chinese spy but you don't hear about that either.

I think the parties were a serious breach during lockdown. However, the witch-hunt being conducted by the press and the media are even worse. They are trying to being down the elected Prime Minister by riling everyone up in any way possible. Certain elements would love to have a 'Remainer' prime minister so that they can then return to Europe. There is a war with Russia brewing in the Ukraine and potentially involving our troops and the rest of the World and all the TV can go on about are parties which may or may not knowlingly have been had a year ago. I find it extraordinary that we are not hearing the actual news, just manufactured hysteria when so many other serious subjects should be discussed. The media is dangerous.

Can we all give up on the mudslinging & carefully dripped information from Cummings, vile desperate for revenge man, & try living what is left of the lives some of us have! Very fed up with so many posts wanting Boris gone! I am not a Tory nor a Labour supporter. I find Starmer as repulsive & ridiculous as Boris & 99% of all politicians past & present! Boris was slung in at the deep end when the pandemic hit & tried his best! Cannot see anyone else who would have bumbled on rather than running away! This is all in the past now & unless we find a DeLorean will not be altered! So can we just be thankful that we are here & stop this as it only causes friction on a site that I come to listen to other than he did/she said etc! Waiting for the mudslinging my way now but I will not click on any more threads like this as I have too much else to worry about ok?

Breaking news of yet another lie by Johnson.

Johnson personally authorised giving priority to the evacuation of Pen Farthing's animals from Afghanistan despite having publicly denied this.

The man needs help.......and not from anyone in the House of Commons.

Singing was prohibited because it generates more virus-laden aerosols than speaking so they sang Happy Birthday if course - one rule for who? BJ has to go. The Tory problem is they don't know if Sunak or Truss have the vote pulling capacity at a General Election and the Mogg's recent inaccurate blather about a new PM having to call one is a clear attempt to frighten MPs about their seats if BJ goes. Be that as it may he is no longer a viable PM and he must go.

ayse

I don’t think QT is the right place for this discussion because there is not enough time.

As some other posters on here have said a moderated scientific discussion with several contributors would be hopefully be more informative and measured.

Wrong discussion sorry.

I don’t think QT is the right place for this discussion because there is not enough time.

As some other posters on here have said a moderated scientific discussion with several contributors would be hopefully be more informative and measured.

Maybe Boris was 'ambushed' with a birthday cake, maybe he knew nothing about it BUT he was responsible for setting the culture in No 10 and for his wife and the office staff to believe it was OK to gather as a group of 30 in one room with a cake says it all. On this occasion he may have been 'dragged into it' but 'it' should never have happened and only did because the others around him were used to their own privileged way of working, denied to those beyond the front door of No 10.

Gillycats

I am in awe of so many people getting their knickers in a twist about the party fiasco. Personally I don’t care. I do care about potential war, the economy, crime, social care, education and the NHS. Or haven’t people noticed that there are much more serious issues to be concerned with? Time to move on and let the police and the enquiry to deal with something that many people were guilty of too.

I totally agree with you Gillycats. There are far more important issues to be concerned about. Russia and the Ukraine, the rise in NI, fuel costs rocketing and other cost of living rises, etc etc These 'parties' (not what I would call a party) which breached the rules were over a year ago and are being investigated. I cannot believe the uproar on here. Let's move on and let the government put their energies into more serious matters.

I can assure you that it is how it is perceived all over the world, and they are having a field day. It reflects so badly on the country, especially with the Governement reneging on the Deal they negotiated and signed. It is truly sad and tragic to see how the UK is currently perceived around the world- very dangerous too in such dangerous times.

It’s not about parties. It’s about morals and integrity.

It is not about the parties per se- it is about trust, about honesty, about fairness.

The issues you mention are of course massively mosre important- but as long as the PM is not trusted, and seen by the public, and even more so by Foreign Powers, friend or foe- as someone who can't be trusted and an inveterate liar- they are all at risk of not being dealt with properly.

Gillycats

I am in awe of so many people getting their knickers in a twist about the party fiasco. Personally I don’t care. I do care about potential war, the economy, crime, social care, education and the NHS. Or haven’t people noticed that there are much more serious issues to be concerned with? Time to move on and let the police and the enquiry to deal with something that many people were guilty of too.

I'm in awe of posters who think that people can't think of more than one thing at a time.

I'm rather apprehensive at the thought that Johnson is PM at a time when we could be facing a grave international crisis. Especially one that has extraordinarily close links with Russia.

I am in awe of so many people getting their knickers in a twist about the party fiasco. Personally I don’t care. I do care about potential war, the economy, crime, social care, education and the NHS. Or haven’t people noticed that there are much more serious issues to be concerned with? Time to move on and let the police and the enquiry to deal with something that many people were guilty of too.