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As if there isn't enough evidence that Johnson is unfit for office

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GillT57 Sun 30-Jan-22 13:51:34

Now we read reports that senior civil servants and ministers were having to insist that Johnson works from the office and not from home due to red boxes, many of them full of highly sensitive information, laying about in the Downing Street flat, open for all to see including Carrie's pals and friends who were frequent visitors. It has been described as a 'Frat house atmosphere', with people in and out.

MaizieD Fri 04-Feb-22 21:44:37

Two more acknowledged letters in to the 1922 committee today.

Aaron Bell, one of the 2019 intake, MP for Newcastle under Lyme, and Nick Gibb, former Schools Minister who lost his long time post (since 2010 IIRC) in Johnson's last reshuffle.

twitter.com/faisalislam/status/1489713881555603457

Coastpath Fri 04-Feb-22 19:55:17

Germanshepherdsmum

I guess that's what you'd expect given his position.

I suppose you are right Germanshepherdsmum but it would just be good for the this country if we could have a Chancellor (and/or PM - whatever he ends up being) who thinks human rights, equality and the environment are priorities.

My mum used to have a saying 'He knows the price of everything and the value of nothing'.

Austerity didn't work last time around, even its architects admit that.

varian Fri 04-Feb-22 18:26:04

For goodness sake, do we have to have Tory government?

Let's have constitutional reform.

Throw everything up in the air and start again.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 04-Feb-22 18:24:39

I think that's necessary unless we keep printing money.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Feb-22 18:23:42

If Sunak becomes leader it is a return to austerity

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 04-Feb-22 18:16:59

I guess that's what you'd expect given his position.

Coastpath Fri 04-Feb-22 17:08:12

Rishi Sunak's voting record

Mostly voted against:-
Laws to promote equality and human rights
Laws to prevent climate change
Higher benefits for those unable to work through illness or disability

Mostly voted for:-
Reducing spending on welfare benefits
Reduced central government funding for local government
Reducing corporation tax

I feel sure Rishi Sunak as PM or Chancellor equals austerity for us, writing off of losses on schemes devised by him and a whole lot of looking after the richest people in the country e.g. his wife.

Ramblingrose22 Fri 04-Feb-22 11:11:33

Sunak has been on a charm offensive for quite a while but underneath it all he's a sharp operator.

He's the one that introduced "Eat Out to Help Out", which I read had contributed to a rise in coronavirus cases.

He walked out of an interview abruptly the other day because he didn't want to answer a question.

He's got a lot of personal charm but underneath he's a cool, calculating and very right wing hawk.

On the upside, I believe him when he said he wouldn't have aimed that baseless accusation at Keir Starmer and he is more intelligent than Liz Truss whom I find hard to take seriously.

I have heard that many Tory MPs are sticking with the status quo simply because they don't like any of the possible replacements for Bojo the Clown. What a sad day for the Tories and for us all.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Feb-22 10:56:53

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@MarinaPurkiss
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Let’s all wake up

This isn’t about Munira Mirza doing the right thing

This is about paving a way for Sunak to become PM

Mirza’s husband is Dougie Smith - a good pal of Sunak

And who broke the story?

James Forsyth - who Sunak was best man to

When he married Allegra Stratton

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Feb-22 10:54:08

Dinahmo

Whitewavemark2

The whips have been told to spin it as the big clear out by Johnson.

Oh well.

Anne Widdecombe on J Vine - he's doing what he said he would - sorting out his house. Faceless junior ministers appearing on the news saying the same.

They are all on message then.

It would be more believable if he had sacked them and Mirza’s letter did not support a clear out!

Who on earth will be prepared to work for Johnson now?

Dinahmo Fri 04-Feb-22 10:44:52

Whitewavemark2

The whips have been told to spin it as the big clear out by Johnson.

Oh well.

Anne Widdecombe on J Vine - he's doing what he said he would - sorting out his house. Faceless junior ministers appearing on the news saying the same.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 04-Feb-22 10:36:37

Some may be resigning because they know they will be sacked when the Met's investigation shows them to be amongst the partygoers. Jump before you're pushed.

westendgirl Fri 04-Feb-22 10:28:45

I do not understand the nodding dog's thinking. If someone resigns it is obvious to most people that that person is not happy with the situation . It is completely different from someone being sacked . How on earth does this equate with Johnson being in control.
Do these spokesmen not realise what fools they look.

Ladyleftfieldlover Fri 04-Feb-22 10:11:58

grumppa

According to one of Boris's 'loyal' ministers on Today this morning, the resignations are a sign that the PM is "taking charge".

Johnson? Taking charge?? Heaven help us!

I heard that on the radio while eating my breakfast. Talk about spin! I nearly choked on my toast.

Coastpath Fri 04-Feb-22 10:09:08

I just read a good point. Allegra Stratton resigned for laughing about covering up for parties that Johnson attended. hmm

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 04-Feb-22 10:02:36

Taking back control perhaps??

grumppa Fri 04-Feb-22 09:54:11

According to one of Boris's 'loyal' ministers on Today this morning, the resignations are a sign that the PM is "taking charge".

Johnson? Taking charge?? Heaven help us!

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 04-Feb-22 09:31:19

It’s not a good look but we don’t yet know who’s going because they can’t bear to work with him any longer and who’s going because they know they’re not going to come out of the Met investigation well and would probably have been sacked. Time will tell.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 04-Feb-22 08:33:39

Don’t believe the spin

davidallengreen
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“Tis not the king, but the king’s evil counsellors” is one of the oldest tropes in human history

And every generation, people still fall for it

Sarnia Fri 04-Feb-22 08:26:32

Splish, Splash, Splish, Splash. 4 more over the side of the sinking ship.

vegansrock Fri 04-Feb-22 07:14:18

Johnson’s advisors when London mayor covered up for him when he was spending afternoons at his lover’s flat getting “technology lessons” . Several of them resigned over the years, he didn’t seem to hang onto them for very long. Johnson isn’t going to go quietly, he will be plotting his survival strategy, he’ll see it as a challenge.

Ramblingrose22 Fri 04-Feb-22 00:31:39

I suspect that the four advisers who have left Downing Street were involved in lots of dodgy things - eg Martin Reynolds having ignored the lockdown rules and invited others during lockdown to a Bring Your Own Booze event. I think Doyle featured in the video where Allegra Stratton was laughing about how to deal with questions about parties to be called "work events" so his departure was to be expected.

Munira Mirza's departure still happened despite Boris trying to row back from his personal attack on Keir Starmer as he is incapable of making sincere and convincing apologies. She probably got bored trying to rein him in and being totally ignored because of his habit of using his own sound bytes, however disingenuous and inappropriate.

Boris was fortunate when Mayor of London to have a good team of advisers who did all the work and didn't mind him taking all the credit. Now the advisers at Number 10 don't want to to take the flak for him any longer when he shows he is not fit for the job. I don't blame them.

Now that we have heard how lazy he is about keeping policy papers in his red boxes secure let alone grasp the details of the policies things will only get worse IMHO if the more able people invited to work at Number 10 turn down invitations to work there in the future.

Coastpath Thu 03-Feb-22 21:42:13

The spin it as a clear out concept rings true. The headline of Daily Mail on line is saying that Martyn Reynolds and Dan Rosenfield were 'axed' but the actual article repeatedly refers to them resigning. Are they being deliberately misleading?

vegansrock Thu 03-Feb-22 21:33:54

He said crime was down and the cost of living down - complete hogwash, how he can get away with lying in parliament when it’s “ unparliamentary “ to call someone a liar is beyond me.

MayBee70 Thu 03-Feb-22 21:28:18

There’s a lot of misuse of statistics floating around at the moment. Eg lockdowns didn’t save lives, the death rate from covid isn’t as high as previously thought. I dread to think what sort of spin this government is going to put on everything.