Sue Gray report

Re Boris Johnson and Sue Gray report
I have no particular party political axe to grind.
And I certainly find the alleged conduct of people in No.10 to be utterly lacking in rules/guidance observance and in empathy with the people they are supposed to serve.
I have worked in positions where the leader of the organisation was brilliant but flawed. The brilliance achieved things that many people enjoy today that they/we wouldn’t otherwise. The flaws were managed and mitigated by an effective team surrounding and inspired by the leader.
Politics aside, BJ has some notable achievements as PM; there were an awful lot of very senior civil servants and politicians in Team Downing Street; and I just wonder whether we should throw the baby out with the bath water?
I haven’t made my mind up yet. I will be really interested to see the full report, as this taster from Sue Gray (and I’m only commenting on the news reports not from a reading of it) appears to be objective. I’m going to wait for the full report before I reach my personal judgment.



Kali2. Have emailed the Speaker.

Petera

Kali2

TopsyIrene06

MayBee70, Kali2. Right behind you. So serious, will write. How dare he.

Please, if anyone here feel strongly that the Jimmy Saville comment was so wrong and slander, please write to The Speaker, Sir Lindsay.

If anyone needs any material, here is the Reuters' fact check

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-britain-savile-idUSL1N2RP200

Huge thank you for that. I’ve emailed Hoyle and said I expect a reply and want an explanation as to why he’s prepared to make Ian Blackford leave the house for telling the truth and yet allows Johnson to say blatant lies against Keir Starmer. And I’ve asked him to read that link.

Aaron Bell again spoke out against the PM as he did over theOwen Paterson affair. As a new MP it can’t be easy for him to do this and I totally respect him for it. Sir Roger Gale is scathing of Johnson. I don’t know what Peter Bottomley thinks but I can imagine. And I know she is no longer an MP but I certainly know what Anna Soubry thinks about Johnson: ditto Dominic Grieve. Breaking news Goves parliamentary secretary (?) has just resigned….it’s all happening

It does make you think, doesn't it - what would it actually take before the average Tory MP would say enough is enough and Johndon should go?

Alegrias1

I didn't think Blackford's speech was very special, but by God I was proud of him at the end.

Calling a spade a spade and in continuing Angela Rayner’s vein. Well done to Starmer, May and the Tory MP who said Boris no longer had his confidence.

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Keir Starmer, Ed Davey and Ian Blackford were all brilliant.

Speaking the truth for all to see.

Kali2

Petera

Kali2

TopsyIrene06

MayBee70, Kali2. Right behind you. So serious, will write. How dare he.

Please, if anyone here feel strongly that the Jimmy Saville comment was so wrong and slander, please write to The Speaker, Sir Lindsay.

If anyone needs any material, here is the Reuters' fact check

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-britain-savile-idUSL1N2RP200

Thank you.

Not a problem. My letter's in with a copy to my local MP. I'll let you all know the reply.

Petera

Kali2

TopsyIrene06

MayBee70, Kali2. Right behind you. So serious, will write. How dare he.

Please, if anyone here feel strongly that the Jimmy Saville comment was so wrong and slander, please write to The Speaker, Sir Lindsay.

If anyone needs any material, here is the Reuters' fact check

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-britain-savile-idUSL1N2RP200

Thank you.

I think he should be made to justify or withdraw the comment about drugs on the Labour front bench too. I've neither heard or read any hint of a suggestion that this is true.

So this is what our country has sunk to. A shameful performance from a Prime Minister who hasn’t the decency to resign, and worse still those, very few it seems, who still support him.
Well done Ian Blackford, and I’m not a fan of Starmer, but he was brilliant.

Alegrias1

I didn't think Blackford's speech was very special, but by God I was proud of him at the end.

Me too.

Nothing to do with the party he represents (although I am part scottish on my late dad's side).

In fact, I had to ask myself how I could justify feeling 'proud' of him, given that I don't even know him, but I did ...

He represented everything positive that Johnson so sadly lacks!

Kali2

TopsyIrene06

MayBee70, Kali2. Right behind you. So serious, will write. How dare he.

Please, if anyone here feel strongly that the Jimmy Saville comment was so wrong and slander, please write to The Speaker, Sir Lindsay.

If anyone needs any material, here is the Reuters' fact check

www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-britain-savile-idUSL1N2RP200

I didn't think Blackford's speech was very special, but by God I was proud of him at the end.

I agree

Well done Ian Blackford.

Ed Davey

"Everyone knows Boris Johnson broke the rules and lied to the country. It’s time Conservative MPs did their patriotic duty, listened to their constituents and stood up for decency by sacking Boris Johnson. He must go before he does our country any more harm."

Ed Dqavey , leader of the Liberal Democrats

twitter.com/EdwardJDavey/status/1488161100084518917?rc=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

I was employed by my Local Authority for 35 years. I never once drank alcohol at work nor did my colleagues. I’m having G&T now though, after watching that shit show I deserve it ?

Starmer spoke with dignity and passion this afternoon and the silence as he spoke was noticeable. I too shall write to the Speaker regarding the Savile comments, and what was all that about drugs and the Labour front bench. Andrew Mitchell showed himself to be a decent man again. My.gut instincts are that Johnson has lost his back benches, but then again I may be wrong. Johnson, without doubt has brought his office, party, the government and now the country into disrepute. What a lying mealy mouthed nasty bit of work he is.

TopsyIrene06

*MayBee70, Kali2*. Right behind you. So serious, will write. How dare he.

Please, if anyone here feel strongly that the Jimmy Saville comment was so wrong and slander, please write to The Speaker, Sir Lindsay.

To those, who in other threads, have suggested that it 's OK to have alcohol in the workplace - Sue Gray that it is not at all acceptable.

Some of you might have a small complement of workers in a private company - probably not a problem. Number 10 is not a private company.

The question we keep asking ourselves is how low can they go?

It’s been viewed 4.3k times since it was uploaded to YouTube 35 mins ago. Look at the odious Rees Mogg’s reaction to the jibe.

youtu.be/pqD34RoORlU

MayBee70, Kali2. Right behind you. So serious, will write. How dare he.