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Sadiq Khan

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Sarnia Wed 09-Feb-22 23:12:11

I am not usually his biggest fan but he has a right to be outraged. When Sarah Everard was murdered Cressida Dick vowed to root out the racist, mysogenistic and homophobic Met Police officers in her force. No stone was going to be left unturned, apparently. Understandably, Sadiq Khan wants to know why 9 of the 14 police officers based at Charing Cross and found to be guilty of such conduct are still working. So do I.

Urmstongran Thu 10-Feb-22 21:22:43

Kahn is quoted;
" to root out the racism, sexism, homophobia, bullying, discrimination and misogyny that still exists".

Not a solitary mention about "crime"...and people voted for this bloke - good God!!

Urmstongran Thu 10-Feb-22 21:23:02

*Khan

vegansrock Thu 10-Feb-22 21:27:06

Yes voted for him and the Green candidate ( we get 2 votes) you are taking his comments out of context- btw what’s wrong with rooting out racism etc?

Casdon Thu 10-Feb-22 21:52:40

As the post is appointed by the Queen on recommendation by the Home Secretary, maybe Priti Patel should recommend herself to replace Cressida Dick . After all, there’s a precedent now, and she could do it in her lunch break.

winterwhite Thu 10-Feb-22 21:53:14

Of course she should have gone earlier, but I’m not sure that she deserved this. And if there was no one else 6 months ago there isn’t now.
Do we know what her response was to SK’s request for a plan of reform? Or whether anyone else has a better one?
This is just like BJ and the covid restrictions. It would have been better surely to ease her into another role.

Urmstongran Thu 10-Feb-22 22:15:09

Nothing wrong with rooting out racism.
But tackling the spiralling knife crime in London merits attention. Horrendous statistics.

Callistemon21 Thu 10-Feb-22 22:21:14

Urmstongran

Nothing wrong with rooting out racism.
But tackling the spiralling knife crime in London merits attention. Horrendous statistics.

Perhaps if they spent less time on being racist, sexist, homophobic, discriminating, misogynist bullies themselves they might find more time to fight knife and other crime, Urmstongran!

Curlywhirly Thu 10-Feb-22 22:23:59

Well said Callistemon21!

Rosie51 Thu 10-Feb-22 23:28:01

Note how misogyny was the last category Khan mentioned? There's a reason, he doesn't actually care about misogyny and like many he doesn't know (or won't define) what a woman is.

Callistemon21 Thu 10-Feb-22 23:37:26

I don't think it was in order of priority.

Rosie51 Thu 10-Feb-22 23:57:43

Callistemon21

I don't think it was in order of priority.

I wish I could have your confidence. Why is misogyny alone in not being classified s a hate crime?

growstuff Fri 11-Feb-22 01:53:59

Rosie51

Note how misogyny was the last category Khan mentioned? There's a reason, he doesn't actually care about misogyny and like many he doesn't know (or won't define) what a woman is.

What's the reason?

growstuff Fri 11-Feb-22 01:55:26

Urmstongran

Kahn is quoted;
" to root out the racism, sexism, homophobia, bullying, discrimination and misogyny that still exists".

Not a solitary mention about "crime"...and people voted for this bloke - good God!!

He defined various crimes.

vegansrock Fri 11-Feb-22 05:53:06

He was talking about rooting out the rot within the force, not the crimes committed by the civilian population- you aren’t taking this quote in context, you might as well complain that he didn’t mention burglary, terrorism etc.

growstuff Fri 11-Feb-22 06:46:44

I'm a bit confused here. Khan is married to a woman and, according to Wiki, has two children. I hope that he's worked out what a woman is.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Feb-22 07:01:22

Urmstongran

Kahn is quoted;
" to root out the racism, sexism, homophobia, bullying, discrimination and misogyny that still exists".

Not a solitary mention about "crime"...and people voted for this bloke - good God!!

If you had been following what has been happening in London you would not have made that remark.

For most of the crime categories, the rate has been dropping except for knife crime amongst the young.

This has been rising exponentially and Khan has been arguing and talking about the lack of action by the Met police for ever.

This is one of his biggest criticisms.

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Feb-22 07:04:30

Rosie51

Note how misogyny was the last category Khan mentioned? There's a reason, he doesn't actually care about misogyny and like many he doesn't know (or won't define) what a woman is.

Can you explain your comment please

vegansrock Fri 11-Feb-22 07:06:20

I think anyone who tolerates inclusive policies towards transgender people will be accused of misogyny.

Visgir1 Fri 11-Feb-22 08:17:48

Pepper59

Cressida Dick has been promoted way above her capabilities. It's been one disaster after another, she should resign.

Hear hear... She should never have been given this role, way beyond her ability. My dear friends husband was a peer of hers who too made it to the very top, always said she was useless and it would be a disaster, he was right.

HettyBetty Fri 11-Feb-22 08:38:56

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Riverwalk Fri 11-Feb-22 09:14:28

That's very unfortunate Hetty but not surprising.

I heard a snippet on the radio about vetting for the Met, can't remember the programme, seems at the Police College Hendon a trainee said he didn't want to do nights or deal with dead bodies!

Surely the recruitment process at the earliest stage should have revealed such expectations.

winterwhite Fri 11-Feb-22 09:38:58

I v rarely agree with Urmston on political matters but I do think she makes a fair point here about the way in which this has been handled.

IMO racial and sexual prejudices aren't the worst things that policing has to tackle. To dismiss the commissioner out of hand citing those grounds alone is unbalanced and doesn't increase my confidence in the Lord Mayor.

Furthermore it seems to set up her successor for failure since racism and mysogeny are unlikely to be eradicated quickly or easily. I hope it doesn't deter first-rate candidates from accepting the job

Whitewavemark2 Fri 11-Feb-22 09:46:26

winterwhite

I v rarely agree with Urmston on political matters but I do think she makes a fair point here about the way in which this has been handled.

IMO racial and sexual prejudices aren't the worst things that policing has to tackle. To dismiss the commissioner out of hand citing those grounds alone is unbalanced and doesn't increase my confidence in the Lord Mayor.

Furthermore it seems to set up her successor for failure since racism and mysogeny are unlikely to be eradicated quickly or easily. I hope it doesn't deter first-rate candidates from accepting the job

The culture of the type described directly impacts on theMets ability to police with consent.

Without consent they become an occupying force and not something that has ever happened, nor should happen in the U.K.

Cunco Fri 11-Feb-22 09:58:19

The Referendum on whether London should have a Mayor and London Assembly was on 7 May 1998 which, if memory serves, was after Blair took over from the discredited Tories under John Major.

I was one of the No voters. While YES won by a margin, it garnered less than 25% of the registered vote in a low turn out affair. If I remember rightly, Ken Livingstone was elected with a very low vote too. I may be wrong but I think Boris Johnson has been the only Conservative Mayor, probably achieved by galvanising previous apathetic voters.

winterwhite Fri 11-Feb-22 09:59:17

Are we saying, then, Whitewave, that racism and sexism have been getting worse in the last 4 years, or is it that they are quite rightly no longer tolerated? It's an uphill task and if CD isn't the right person for this part of the job it could be taken away from her and given to an assistant commissioner for 18 months until she retires.

I hope GN HQ can amalgamate the two threads on this subject ASAP.