Behaviour at PMQs

MissAdventure

Entitled fools.

? Precisely MissA

Entitled fools.

Madgran77

I just cant bear to watch it on anymore. The whole obnoxious behaviour as standard system, all trying to "outsmart" each other needs to be completely reformed. Not an example to wider society. I find it appalling

Indeed so - I simply cannot bring myself to watch it. It makes my heart sink.

GSM you seem to be obsessed with Angela Rayner! From what I have seen, she has passion but integrity even in the face of the disgusting jeers from the Tory bench. Her comments in a private side meeting bear no comparison to what went on today. I appreciate you are to the right in your political beliefs, but surely as a citizen, professional person, parent you cannot possibly condone what is going on? Anyone who believes in constitutional democracy and the rule of law should be both disgusted and afraid at what this corrupt man and his cronies are getting away with

I can see why he was angry and appreciate his willingness to apologise Casdon. Although he chose a harsh simile, he is not wrong, is he? With reference to the words he used his apology would, presumably, be to Parliament not Johnson.

Johnson has never learned how to apologise so it won't happen.

This is what he said:
‘Lectures from you (Johnson) on personal responsibility? What next? Harold Shipman on medical ethics?’
He apologised for it being in poor taste. I rate him, he’s a sharp cookie, and he has the grace and insight to know if he oversteps the mark and apologise for doing so.
Where is Johnson’s apology following his lies about Starmer being involved in the Jimmy Savile case. There’s absolutely no comparison.

He would. He seems to have a functioning brain. How many others did the same from the group of rowdy louts on the government side, I wonder.

Wes Streeting, the Labour shadow health minister has apologised for a jibe at the PM about the serial killer Harold Shipman made during PMQ’s today.

From what I have seen of Angela Rayner in parliament over the past few weeks she holds her own at PMQ time brilliantly and with great charm in the face of smirks, head shaking, boos and general rudeness from the bench opposite her. I have not seen her jeering or shouting over people who are trying to speak. I've not seen her get up and walk away rather than answer a direct question. She has consistently looked more controlled, dignified and convincing than the mob yelling and cat calling today.

You always seem such a respectful, well mannered and measured person Germanshepherdsmum I think you must surely be disappointed with the behaviour on the Tory benches today. Having read with interest your posts about your your professional life I am quite sure you would not have tolerated such bad behaviour from the people who were in your charge when you were working.

Germanshepherdsmum

For a start, does anyone recall the recent ‘sign language’ episode? Don’t tell me Labour would be any different. Just imagine Angela Rayner, for one, on the Government’s front bench.

Bit like imagining IACGMOOH’s Nadine Dorries perhaps. Can’t imagine Angela eating disgusting animal/bird parts on live television though…( didn’t she get fined for not attending parliament at the time, too…)

An utter disgrace

The Speaker is weak and either doesn’t care or is totally out of his depth. He doesn’t seem to be interested in what is going on. Why is he always looking down. I would have loved John Bercow still to be the Speaker - like him or loathe him he knew his stuff. The Tory MPs involved in trying to shout down Caroline Lucas are a disgrace. Johnson is allowed not to answer questions and waffle on with his own Agenda.

You aren’t hearing what people are saying Germanshepherdsmum. The scenario is the same at every PMQ now, the PM and cabinet belittle all opposition through hundreds of individual incidents. They have no courtesy for anybody who isn’t in their little gang.

"An example to wider society"
I've just fiinished watching the replay and my first thought was if the UK knew where the decisions about your income and welfare were coming from there would be a revolution".
But most just accept it.

For a start, does anyone recall the recent ‘sign language’ episode? Don’t tell me Labour would be any different. Just imagine Angela Rayner, for one, on the Government’s front bench.

There has always been an element of pantomime and circus about PMQs and that was, to me, part of its peculiar eccentric charm, nobody wants to watch a board meeting, BUT we have now moved beyond that and into a rude disrespectful jeering bullying session. Hoyle is poor at control and very poor at enforcing what are basic rules of courtesy (let alone democracy) by allowing Johnson to walk out midway through Bryant's question.

I just cant bear to watch it on anymore. The whole obnoxious behaviour as standard system, all trying to "outsmart" each other needs to be completely reformed. Not an example to wider society. I find it appalling

Lindsay Hoyle does seem quite weak with comparison to John Bercow.

Bring back Bercow.

Kali2

''However, the braying of the Terrible Tories was stopping her from speaking. I think Mr Speaker was a bit miffed in general today.''

miffed is not the word I'd use. I am sure he is a very nice, decent man, but he is totally out of his depth and just does not have the clout.

I'm afraid you're right Kali but then I wouldn't like to be up against someone who set out to be the English Oligarch. He (Johnson) seems increasingly petty although I am not sure those who have fallen for every one of the steps in the Dictators Handbook would agree.

I see Trump (the US Johnson) has praised Putin and has described Vladimir Putin's aggression towards Ukraine as "genius", "wonderful" and "very savvy".

Talking about Putin's description of his "peace-keeping" Trump is quoted as saying "I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said 'this is genius'.

And this was the man some on here could not see for what he is - any more than they can see Johnson for what he is.

Ironically, they're the ones who bleat on about sovereignty. Frankly, I can't say I'm very proud of being a citizen represented by hooligans.

As someone explained to me yesterday ( it might have been on here or Facebook) parliamentary privilege only worked because the people in the house acted in a morally acceptable way. Under Boris Johnson this is no longer the case. Parliament has just turned into a pantomime and, imo it needs to move with the times. All this division bell stuff etc needs to stop. Plus all of the stupid plant questions which are just there to give the questioner a moment of glory and a rewarding thank you from their beloved leader.

The Tory MPs behaved like a gang of yobbos.

Their behavuor are so uncouth, so course, so disreputable, it makes me as a British citizen, living in a constituency where we used to have an upstanding decent LibDem MP, be ashamed to be represented by a Tory MP.

Nor did the constant avoiding questions and lying. Our PM is taking the p*ss - and getting away with it!

I don’t think you’re right Germanshepherdsmum. I’ve been watching PMQ for years, and the level of sheer rudeness shown by this cabinet is unprecedented. Heated disagreement is always present regardless of who’s in power, of course, but not the consistent disdain shown to everybody who dares to challenge. It’s not because it’s a Tory Government, because this behaviour didn’t happen under Teresa May or David Cameron