You’d think this news would be front page‼️

I’m a conspiracy theorist so I always thought it was “man made”.

Everything I've read in the scientific literature says all the evidence suggests it was NOT a lab leak, deliberate or otherwise. The reason the lab is in Wuhan is because coronviruses are very common there so it's where they study them (the same as having a lab researching ebola where ebola is very common). It came from bats, probably via an intermediate species of mammal.

Whilst I agree that, as a country, we are unlikely to impose sanctions against China - each and everyone of us has the choice to stop buying 'made in China' goods. Yes, it can be tricky. Yes, they are cheap (and often cheap quality!). But - we can all of us make a stand. Maybe save up just a little bit more to buy locally made, or at least non-China produced goods. It is possible - my daughter has taken this stance when it came to buying anything for her new baby. Took a little longer to source items but well worth it. I refuse to buy anything made in China - would rather go without.

We’ve travelled all over and almost every country we’ve visited big or small has links to China in some way - they are prepared to spend a lot of money and play a long game.
I noted from the start of the pandemic the name was rapidly changed from Chinese flu to Covid - WHA said they didn’t want to stigmatise China. I’m sure Taiwan is nervous at the moment too.

Casdon. growstuff Iam64

When a poster makes up nonsense ie I’ve somehow posted I’m being controlled which I didn’t and no mature person had reason to deduce from my comment that’s what I was saying, then I find it childish. Somehow that’s triggered the mean girls to come out to play. Carry on ladies. Pile away. I’m only surprised certain others haven’t joined in it yet but I dare say one in particular will. Have fun

If it came from a lab I'd be very surprised if it was deliberate, unless a rogue scientist was responsible.

Why would it be released into one of their own cities?

I think that it was common knowledge that Covid was the result of a lab accident in Wuhan, China.

Whilst or not China has sanctioned the lab in question or not is probably best left as an internal decision. Accidents do happen. Most have no wide impact just very important information, but tragically on this occasion this has not been the case.

Right at the beginning of the pandemic I said to DH that I thought it bore all the hallmarks of a lab created virus. It had to be unique as there was no natural immunity.
Which country cornered the market on PPE and face masks, well no surprises there.

In 2019, i worked for a chinese company based in the UK. They made us all redundant due to the fact the chinese economy was on a downturn and therefore could not keep us in employment if they were making people in china redundant as well. As soon as this virus surfaced a lot of us had the strong suspicion that it was man made and released to help the chinese recover their economy, by putting the rest of the world in a big hole, share prices plummeted to enable the chinese to get a bigger foothold in the worlds businesses and therefore rebuild their economy. this was all a money maker for them and to hell with the amount of people who lost everything, including lives!

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Lab leaks are not uncommon. In the UK Foot and Mouth disease was leaked from a research lab via the drainage system, twice!

Volver &Co clappy hands

Laboratory accidents are common place. There was an article about it in a decent news publication. I'm talking about articles in the likes of The Economist, not daily tabloid.

Lab accidents don't make the news as they don't make this impact on the World Covid19 does

Conspiracy Theory coming up.
China and Russia collaborated to conceal the truth so they could conquer the World.

Of course its a lab leak and China should pay compensation world wide.

It's old 'news' and taking precautions at UK virus labs is not proof that Covid originated from a lab, Chinese or otherwise. It may or not have happened but there's a whiff of fake news relating to what people think is said behind closed doors. Which or whose doors? If they are closed how do you know?

We are heading for potentially Nuclear War with Russia, of course it's front page news

You’re right growstuff - Sometimes biting your tongue says the most.

Casdon Personally, I'm not too bothered if posters have a hissy fit and call me a name. That's what toddlers do. When they get a bit older, they turn it round and blame everybody else, to prolong the attention they're getting. Best ignored!

tickingbird You started the personal attack yourself when you called growstuff childish. Iam64 called you out. I do care when people make unfounded comments about other posters then claim injury themselves. It’s a public forum, people will say what they think, and they will disagree with you.

05:23tickingbird

^It wasn’t a different point of view though; it was a personal attack. Maybe you aren’t aware of the difference. Fascinating that you care.^

I agree tickingbird with you it was a personal attack.

It wasn’t a different point of view though; it was a personal attack. Maybe you aren’t aware of the difference. Fascinating that you care.

I don’t know what you were thinking, but Gransnet threads are not the place to have one to one conversations tickingbird, anybody can join in and say whatever they like. They will often have a different view to you. That’s the whole point

Iam64
Posters often comment on ‘conversations’
That’s what I did
You were confrontational. At least own it.

“She was attacking me and her input was neither warranted or necessary”
Posters often comment on ‘conversations’
That’s what I did.