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volver Sat 26-Feb-22 09:18:10

Very often we hear the boast from posters on this forum that they don’t have Facebook/Twitter or so on because it’s a hotbed of lies and disinformation. Well in the past couple of days we have had a poster spreading lies about the reasons Russia have attacked Ukraine, we have had speculation on the source of the coronavirus which has sparked a slew of people saying they know it all along, and we’ve had completely wrong information about the progress of the Ukrainian invasion. Then we have the relatively unimportant attacks on minor royals who we’ve decided aren’t worthy of the name and we’ve had scaremongering about covid testing.

Nobody is immune to succumbing to disinformation. Don’t think that just because you’re a savvy old bird that they’ll get nothing past you. I’d be willing to bet that there are things you think are true that are based on false facts created by some unknown source. I don’t exclude myself from this.

If something is outlandish, if something is unlikely, if something sounds plausible because it supports your preconceptions but doesn’t have any facts to back it up, please take a minute to think, is this true? Remember that half an hour on google isn’t the same as several years’ experience in a subject. There’s no point in complaining about Facebook when that’s just a bigger version of Gransnet. People spread lies there and they spread lies here.

Now please feel free to tell me I don’t run the site, people can post what they like and that I have a stick up my a***. Heard it all before.

volver Sat 26-Feb-22 14:20:47

Dinahmo

I signed up to Facebook to gain access to my local village's page to find out about activities, services etc in and around the neighbourhood. Various friends are on it and I'm amazed at how regularly they post stuff, often very trivial. One acquaintance regularly posts the results from her weekly art class.

I get fed up with the number of emails that I receive telling me that there is something that I should see from someone that I know. I haven't posted anything myself.

If people are posting stuff you're bored seeing, then you can stop following them. It then doesn't show up on your timeline but they are still your friend. And if you don't like getting emails from Facebook you can turn them off.

Perhaps your friend is proud of her art and wants people to see it.

That's the difference with GN and Facebook, I think. With FB you can control what you see. With GN, you get what you're given.

Doodledog Sat 26-Feb-22 14:28:07

I get fed up with the number of emails that I receive telling me that there is something that I should see from someone that I know. I haven't posted anything myself.

You must have opted into getting those emails, though.

FB can be very private, or as open as you want it to be. I only have 'friends' I know, and who also post. I wouldn't stay FB friends with people who read my posts but don't contribute anything - what's the point?

My posts can only be seen by those people, unless I have tagged people (and I only do that if I am happy for the post to go wider). If anyone tags me, I have to approve the post before it goes onto my timeline, so what's on there is only things that I have allowed or posted myself.

I get no notifications unless I am logged in, and they take the form of a number on the top right corner, so I can choose whether or not to open them - no emails, no 'dings', no communications that I haven't asked for, and I only allow friend requests from friends of people who are already my 'FB friends'. My personal details (eg DOB) can only be seen by me, and I don't complete personal details about marital status or educational institutions attended, as people I want to know those things already do.

If people want the world to know about their lives they can set things up that way, but it's by no means required. Anyone who knows your name can possibly find you on FB, particularly if you are called something like Anastasia-Louisa Ponsonby-Smythe - it's less likely if you are a Mary Smith - but if, like me, you have everything locked down they will only see your profile picture. Mine is a stock image of something that interests me, not a picture of me. Who do people think will want to go to great lengths to track them down anyway?

Marydoll Sat 26-Feb-22 14:38:48

When I was teaching, staffwere warned to be careful what they posted on Facebook, etc, especially when applying for posts. They were checked.

One teacher I knew was sacked for gross misconduct, struck off the teaching register and ended up in court for her posts on social media.

What a foolish woman!

Doodledog Sat 26-Feb-22 14:44:00

Yes, there are those who post very unwise photos (and other things), and don't lock their profiles right down.

That's not the fault of social media though - it's because a lot of people don't use them sensibly.

Marydoll Sat 26-Feb-22 14:52:37

I am always surprised when I see photos of grandchildren on GN. Have the parents given permission? My son would be raging if I posted such photos and rightly so. Are people so naive and unaware that these photos can be manipulated by unscrupulous people?

I spent the whole of my career teaching pupils and advising staff not to post identifiable pictures of pupils on social media. Any photos on our school website had to be back or side views and pupils were never identified by name.
Sad, but necessary.

JaneJudge Sat 26-Feb-22 15:02:26

I use facebook for the looking at friend's photos of their cats/dogs/etc smile and I have used marketplace a bit but you even get 'odd' posts on there. I have a twitter account but don't really use it as I don't really understand it and I waste enough time time online as it is.

Barmeyoldbat Sat 26-Feb-22 15:56:46

I use Facebook to keep in touch with friends and past students abroad. Also my own gd as this is. The media they use , I also belong to a few interest groups. GN is great for a gossip, support when things are bad, and a healthy debate.

GillT57 Sat 26-Feb-22 16:34:32

I find FB very useful, and can't understand the pride some have in not being on it. The local hub is very useful for reporting flooding on our roads out of the village, lost cats, selling stuff, and I too am on a few interest groups. Yes, there are a few bonkers posters, a few malicious posters, but they are easily spotted and disproved, unlike the MSM with their biased editorials, front pages, which many, sadly, take as some kind of gospel. I also read twitter, and it is a great source of up to date information. I select who I follow, and find that reporters such as Peston use it a lot, it is a good way of reading succinct, up to date reports and opinions. GN is what it is, an interest group in that we are all within roughly the same demographic. I certainly have more trust in what I read on twitter than what I would read in the MSM, assuming I bothered to buy a newspaper!

Callistemon21 Sat 26-Feb-22 16:37:01

GN is what it is, an interest group in that we are all within roughly the same demographic.
It's just a chat forum, not the true gospel of all world news

growstuff Sat 26-Feb-22 17:21:26

Germanshepherdsmum

Oh dear - my only online presence is GN. If you were to google my name you wouldn’t find me now I’m retired.

But if you're applying to join a Facebook group, you'll probably have a profile, some existing friends and a record of posts you've made or responded to. I'm wary of people who have none of those because it looks as though they've created an ID just to join my group.

I recently received a request from somebody called Misty McMuffin from Texas. She had made very few posts, but had a lot of male friends. Her profile picture looked like Jennifer Arcuri's twin sister. I declined her request and she hasn't contacted me to appeal.

Lucca Sat 26-Feb-22 17:47:58

Marydoll

When I was teaching, staffwere warned to be careful what they posted on Facebook, etc, especially when applying for posts. They were checked.

One teacher I knew was sacked for gross misconduct, struck off the teaching register and ended up in court for her posts on social media.

What a foolish woman!

Ooh exciting ! What lovely gossip that must have led to !!

Marydoll Sat 26-Feb-22 18:03:08

Actually, it was awful. A young woman, after all that study and hard work, losing her job, never able to teach again. Her family were devastated.
We her colleagues, had to contend with the fall out.

JaneJudge Sat 26-Feb-22 18:06:25

I am in a few specialist groups on facebook and I find them to be quite sexist towards women confused but I find quite a lot f men's comments on facebook sexist and in RL if I am honest

AreWeThereYet Sat 26-Feb-22 18:13:27

I used to work with someone who was sacked after telling his mates on FB that he had taken a day off sick so he could go to the races. Don't know if he didn't set his privacy properly or someone at work dobbed him in or what. When he got to work the next day he was called in and told to leave the premises.

Mollygo Sat 26-Feb-22 18:21:20

I use FB for groups and some family stuff. Most family stuff is via WhatsApp. I also use Twitter mostly because I find firms respond more quickly to requests or complaints that are put on line.
The main differences between being unkind or spreading misinformation on the internet, whether GN, FB, Twitter et al, and gossiping over the garden fence is that you knew who had given you the misinformation and you knew that you and the listener knew who spread the bad feeling over the fence.
Even on FB, and definitely on T or GN, people hide behind pseudonyms so can be as untruthful or nasty as they like whilst still showing a different face in public.

DiscoDancer1975 Sat 26-Feb-22 18:44:28

nanna8

I preferred the previous incarnation, not so aggressive and more reasonable. And not such an obvious troll.

Yes....even worse than before.....

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 26-Feb-22 19:36:21

What have I missed?

volver Sat 26-Feb-22 19:42:20

DiscoDancer1975

nanna8

I preferred the previous incarnation, not so aggressive and more reasonable. And not such an obvious troll.

Yes....even worse than before.....

Would you like to share who you think the troll is? Remembering that calling people trolls gets you deleted from GN? smile

DiscoDancer1975 Sat 26-Feb-22 19:45:44

Mmmmm. Good point. No, I would never divulge. My lips are sealed.

volver Sat 26-Feb-22 19:47:48

Maybe I'll just report you anyway then, just to be on the safe side?

Marydoll Sat 26-Feb-22 19:48:36

volver

DiscoDancer1975

nanna8

I preferred the previous incarnation, not so aggressive and more reasonable. And not such an obvious troll.

Yes....even worse than before.....

Would you like to share who you think the troll is? Remembering that calling people trolls gets you deleted from GN? smile

This only leads to more speculation and perhaps people may wrongly suspected. ??

DiscoDancer1975 Sat 26-Feb-22 19:50:18

volver

Maybe I'll just report you anyway then, just to be on the safe side?

Ok....

volver Sat 26-Feb-22 19:51:28

Nah, don't worry. Got my big girl pants on.

DiscoDancer1975 Sat 26-Feb-22 19:52:32

volver

Nah, don't worry. Got my big girl pants on.

I wasn’t worried...you go ahead if you feel that’s what you should do.

Doodledog Sat 26-Feb-22 19:56:02

Germanshepherdsmum

What have I missed?

No idea, but my interest is piqued now too.