R T - Russia Today pro-Kremlin propaganda tv

I have always been a supporter of European unity, since the days General de Gaulle said 'Non'.

In the succeeding 60 years I have never seen or read anything that has led me to change my mind.

I do not mean that I did not see much that needed to be changed in how the EC was run, but think we were better out than in, never.

You must have had a good read of said papers then, to know what they were saying. Or did you read the left wing bias of the Guardian, Personally I made my mind up in 75. No thanks.

You did not have to watch RT to be subjected to pro-brexit propaganda.

If you read The Daily Express The Daily Mail, The Telegraph, The Sun etc - more than 80% of the readers of our national press were subjected to fake news, disinformation and anti-EU propaganda for years

Why? -because the EU was threatening to make the crooked tax dodging billionaire proprietors of these newspapers pay fair taxes and that did not suit their agenda.

Katie59
Propaganda was wasted on me. I didn’t want the channel tunnel ?

Just as UK voters lapped up the Brexit propaganda.

This sort of comment really irks me.

Am I the only person to remember all at the talk of leaving the EU in the 90s? Referendum Party? We Demand a Referendum Now? There has been Euro sceptics for decades.

My father wanted us to leave before we'd even joined.

Many people did NOT lap up Brexit propaganda, as MOnica said

I wanted to stay and would have always wanted to stay but we didn't.

And that was that.

When they knew that the US arsenal was 10 times the Russian

Well you're just wrong there Katie59.

Nothing else to say really.

Katie59 British voters did NOT lap up the Brexit propaganda. Many had made their minds up on the subject well before the Brexit campaign. Very near half of us supported staying in Europe. Most of us had also made up our minds before the campaign. The rest were persuaded by Remainer porpaganda.

What is the difference?

varian

paddyann54

I think that we often get a less biased view on RT than the BBC .I watch both RT and Aljazeera on a regular basis . No tory govt bias there .

Oh dear Paddyann54!!

Having read your passionate pro-SNP posts for some years now, and having always made allowances for your strongly held beliefs, I am sorry to say that you seem to have completely lost the plot.

From what I've seen of RT, it does attract the "disgruntled", the aim being to unite groups with very different agendas against the existing establishment.

Russia and the west have been daggers drawn since WW2, most of that time the US has been poking them, with propaganda that alleged that Russia had superior nuclear capability. When they knew that the US arsenal was 10 times the Russian, propaganda the the US voters lapped up.

Just as UK voters lapped up the Brexit propaganda.

Paddyann. ake some Prozac and Wine, chill out and read a Mills & Boon.

paddyann54

I think that we often get a less biased view on RT than the BBC .I watch both RT and Aljazeera on a regular basis . No tory govt bias there .

Oh dear Paddyann54!!

Having read your passionate pro-SNP posts for some years now, and having always made allowances for your strongly held beliefs, I am sorry to say that you seem to have completely lost the plot.

Given that Putin is blocking social media and controlling information, the best way to show Russians the world’s displeasure is to block all sport and cultural stuff, apart from other stuff of course.

I saw a young Russian friend today. She could not stop crying at the shock of what has happened.

Paddyann,

You mention US have 100 military bases, I think it is over 800!

They are supplying tons of weapons to Ukraine, when this is over will they present their bill like they did to us after WW2 which took 60 years to pay back, Gordon Brown made the final payment.

They would dearly love a couple of bases in Ukraine.

When are they going to return The Chagos Islands to their rightful inhabitants.

RT is a propaganda tool for Putin.

And yes whilst there are undoubtedly Russian citizens who disagree profoundly with Putin, there are Russians now killing innocent people, destroying their homes and taking away their human rights.

So I’m afraid Russia is our enemy.

Witzend

TBH, Paddyann54, I’d have thought that any BBC bias was in the other direction!

It is.

Grantanow

I think RT should be shut down. Of course most intelligent people can assess propaganda for themselves but there are plenty of less educated people who can't. The Russians and others already jam transmissions they don't like so I wouldn't worry about retaliation.

Oh dear.

I think RT should be shut down. Of course most intelligent people can assess propaganda for themselves but there are plenty of less educated people who can't. The Russians and others already jam transmissions they don't like so I wouldn't worry about retaliation.

Russia became the enemy in the last few weeks. Britain, together with other NATO countries has been supporting Ukraine and has instituted sanctions against Russia because of its invasion of Ukraine.

Which side are you supporting?

paddyanne you and I normally agree but not this time.

Russia have nothing to fear from NATO. They could join themselves if they weren't so paranoid about the West having it in for them.

As for the US. They're no angels, that's for sure. But they didn't unilaterally nuke Japan, I don't think we were squeaky clean in that one. Eighty years ago! They didn't need a fall guy for 9:11, they needed the guy that caused it.

We can be critical of US foreign policy without being apologists for Putin.

.....and Putin is in cahoots with them. Note I did not say Russia.

China is the worry now paddyanne.
I watch RT and Aljazeera. It's good to understand a different perspective. I dont have to agree.

Monica when did Russia become the enemy ...?
If I rememeber correctly Russia lost 25 MILLION people in WW11 .A much higher loss than any other nation ,if they are concerned about having NATO bases all around them maybe they have cause.
In my mind America is a far bigger threat in the World,how many countries have been invaded by the good old USA? How many wars have they been involved in for spurious reasons .Vietnam,Korea,of course they nuked Japan,Iraq...twice , sabre rattled Iran for decades ,Afghanistan for no reason other than they needed a fall guy for the TWIN TOWERS and they had their imput in many more .They have over 100 military bases around the world..why is that?

I agree with MOnica, we need to demonstrate free speech and free broadcasting.

RT is anti-West Europe establishment, which appeals to a range of people, including conspiracy theorists, anarchists and the right wing.