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Kremlin-linked oligarchs in London

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varian Wed 02-Mar-22 11:45:43

Last week, the Center for American Progress, a US thinktank close to President Biden, warned that “uprooting Kremlin-linked oligarchs will be a challenge given the close ties between Russian money and the United Kingdom’s ruling Conservative party, the press, and its real estate and financial industry”.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/31/anti-corruption-campaigner-bill-browder-uk-oligarchs-putin

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 12:01:36

That is why I think that they are being so slow in identifying them.

MerylStreep Wed 02-Mar-22 12:06:56

I watched Bill Browder talking about this this morning. Absolutely fascinating. What that man doesn’t know about Russia and Putin isn’t worth knowing.
He claimed that the Chinese will bail out the oligarchs who take a financial hit.
There’s a big piece on him with Wikipedia.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 12:10:48

MerylStreep

I watched Bill Browder talking about this this morning. Absolutely fascinating. What that man doesn’t know about Russia and Putin isn’t worth knowing.
He claimed that the Chinese will bail out the oligarchs who take a financial hit.
There’s a big piece on him with Wikipedia.

Did he say what the Chinese would gain from bailing them out?

jaylucy Wed 02-Mar-22 12:10:48

Well Harrods would go into liquidation without their spending for starters!
I think there are many that keep themselves and any information about themselves well hidden as Russia I believe has a similar system to the Mafia!

Grany Wed 02-Mar-22 12:11:05

Scottish watchdog looks into Russian donation to Prince Charles charity

varian Wed 02-Mar-22 12:42:52

Questions for Tories as Pandora Papers reveal woman, 48, who has given £1.9m to the party and played tennis with Boris Johnson is ‘a housewife funded by her Russian ex-minister husband’

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10058653/Tory-party-donor-Lubov-Chernukhin-receives-personal-wealth-ex-Russian-minister-husband.html

varian Wed 02-Mar-22 12:44:46

At this morning's PMQs, Johnson was asked if the Conservative Party would donate the money it got from Lubov Chernukhin to help Ukraine.

He declined to answer.

GillT57 Wed 02-Mar-22 14:14:40

varian

Questions for Tories as Pandora Papers reveal woman, 48, who has given £1.9m to the party and played tennis with Boris Johnson is ‘a housewife funded by her Russian ex-minister husband’

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10058653/Tory-party-donor-Lubov-Chernukhin-receives-personal-wealth-ex-Russian-minister-husband.html

I believe this is the woman who is part of the so called inner circle of experts who currently advise the Tory party. It is obvious that her husband must be close to Putin, we all know what happens to those who fall out with him. All the Tory party say when challenged is that the people concerned are British citizens.

Kali2 Wed 02-Mar-22 14:46:52

karmalady ''We cannot let unidentified ukranians in kali2, russian agents will be trying to slip in as per the salisbury poisonings. Worse case, they could be carrying very toxic poison such as ricin. Ukranians going to a relative will be traceable. The unidentified with evil intent will simply vanish in the crowds, poisoning reservoirs etc is very feasible. Uk cannot and must not, let its guard down''

but no need to worry at all about those Russian oligarchs- who buy their citizenship and even places in the Lords, hey!

varian Wed 02-Mar-22 18:32:47

Why do you think it is that the 27 countries of the EU have offered visa-free access to their countries for Ukrainian refugees for three years?

Are they uniquely immune to infiltration by Russian spies or are they just stronger than us or morally superior or cleverer or all of these?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 18:35:09

“Money will be needed to rebuild Ukraine after this. ??

That money should not come from the Russian people, but from Putin’s oligarchs.

That’s why Boris Johnson’s refusal to seize oligarch assets, giving them time to sell off and escape, is such a betrayal of Ukraine”.

MerylStreep Wed 02-Mar-22 19:03:47

whitewavemark2
Bill Browder said there will be very high interest rates.
I suspect there is more to these loans, although I would imagine that by the time it gets to the borrowing stage Russia will be on its knees and won’t have anything to bargain with.
Shame ?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 19:28:15

Guess who else is still operating in Russia?

Yep... the money men!

PWC, EY, Deloitte, KPMG

The BIG 4

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 19:29:04

MerylStreep

whitewavemark2
Bill Browder said there will be very high interest rates.
I suspect there is more to these loans, although I would imagine that by the time it gets to the borrowing stage Russia will be on its knees and won’t have anything to bargain with.
Shame ?

Do you mean the interest China will charge the oligarchs?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 19:30:58

Rory Stewart
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Such good news - and another reason why we should be significantly increasing our investment in the BBC World Service
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New figures show people in Russia are turning to BBC News in their millions for factual independent information about the war in Ukraine.

varian Wed 02-Mar-22 19:35:39

Last year Russia expelled Sarah Rainsford , the highly experienced and well regarded BBC Russia correspondent,.

As long as the BBC World service is still accessible in Russia, we can hope that the truth gets through to Russian citizens.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 19:49:01

Note that Abramovich has still not criticised Putin's barbaric war in Ukraine.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 19:55:32

A reminder: EU sanctions on Russia came into effect at 4am on Monday.

In the UK, they won’t begin for another month.

Since Boris Johnson came to power, the Tories have accepted nearly two million pounds from prominent Russian-born donors.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 20:05:04

? one amongst many.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 20:08:58

Just seen this. Unable yet to verify

At least 3 european national security agencies believe that the main financier behind GB News and a secretive London Think Tank is a Russian Spy.

MaizieD Wed 02-Mar-22 20:17:08

Whitewavemark2

? one amongst many.

This one from my home town.

This is Will Quince, MP for #Colchester. He took £5,950 of Russian money.

twitter.com/colchlondoner/status/1498335283510657026

MaizieD Wed 02-Mar-22 20:20:59

Whitewavemark2

Just seen this. Unable yet to verify

At least 3 european national security agencies believe that the main financier behind GB News and a secretive London Think Tank is a Russian Spy.

This guy?

twitter.com/MartinCaldwell/status/1497466356500996101

Guardian story from 2018

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/01/christopher-chandler-founder-of-pro-brexit-thinktank-has-link-with-russian-intelligence-mp-says

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 20:31:46

MaizieD

Whitewavemark2

Just seen this. Unable yet to verify

At least 3 european national security agencies believe that the main financier behind GB News and a secretive London Think Tank is a Russian Spy.

This guy?

twitter.com/MartinCaldwell/status/1497466356500996101

Guardian story from 2018

www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/01/christopher-chandler-founder-of-pro-brexit-thinktank-has-link-with-russian-intelligence-mp-says

Nick Tolhurst tweeted it.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 02-Mar-22 20:57:09

We need to stop buying oil and gas from Russia, as they are using the proceeds to bankroll their army.