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What is this government fit for? What do they actually understand?

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DaisyAnne Wed 09-Mar-22 12:05:42

It's almost as if they think sitting on a committee - even a big committee like the Cabinet - and deciding what would look good is all they need to do. They don't seem to understand that they need to ensure it works.

They haven't understood logistics, administration, business, poverty, work, or disease. The only thing they appear to understand is politics. They are amazingly good at coming up with three-word slogans that mean nothing. As for them running the country; I can't see them doing anything purposeful; they are desperately incompetent. Why do we have to put up with this?

Jane43 Wed 09-Mar-22 12:10:27

Their priority is, and always has been, making the rich and privileged richer and more privileged. The sooner people wake up to this the better.

NannyJan53 Wed 09-Mar-22 12:14:51

I cannot understand why so many people do not understand this concept Jane43 it has always been the same with the Conservative party.

Esspee Wed 09-Mar-22 12:20:26

What’s this government fit for? The scrap heap in my view.

Oldbat1 Wed 09-Mar-22 12:22:01

Just watching question time. Can’t believe the waffle from the Prime Minister saying everything possible is being done for refugees!!! The bragging also really gets to me. What a total disgrace.

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Mar-22 12:23:06

“After all this time Johnson can still shock. He just told parliament the UK has done more to resettle vulnerable people since 2015 than any other country in Europe. Just astounding. It is one of the sickest, most barefaced lies he has ever told.”

Whitewavemark2 Wed 09-Mar-22 12:54:44

Professor Christopher Painter
@PrfChrisPainter
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Every time we have a crisis of whatever description - Covid pandemic, Afghanistan evacuation, Russian invasion of Ukraine - Johnson's Government scuttles around shambolically for months on end. Essentially because we have a Cabinet comprised of Ministers sadly out of their depth.

Oopsadaisy1 Wed 09-Mar-22 13:01:31

MPs are brought into various Departments and onto the Cabinet with very little or no knowledge of the Department they find themselves in.
The only thing they are good at is giving jobs to their mates and making themselves richer, then when they leave politics they get very well paid part time jobs and usually a Peerage.
Gravy train springs to mind.

DaisyAnne Wed 09-Mar-22 13:04:54

Whitewavemark2

Professor Christopher Painter
@PrfChrisPainter
·
5h
Every time we have a crisis of whatever description - Covid pandemic, Afghanistan evacuation, Russian invasion of Ukraine - Johnson's Government scuttles around shambolically for months on end. Essentially because we have a Cabinet comprised of Ministers sadly out of their depth.

That is certainly true. I do wonder how we can improve things.

LondonMzFitz Wed 09-Mar-22 13:15:58

It's shameful, disgraceful. I'm appalled on a daily basis. I watched Priti Patel and I honestly think the woman is winging it, not got a clue. There simply must be a rethinking of why the wrong people are in the highly influential roles, utterly clueless.
Covid.
Afghanistan.
Ukraine.
It's shocking.

CvD66 Wed 09-Mar-22 16:09:27

LondonMzFitz How can this government justify Patel's trip to Poland (4 Mar) claiming to be to announce the opening of the UK visa scheme - which 4 days later had 'managed' to issue 500 visas. What a flagrant waste of money, raising hopes which she has no intention of fulfilling!! Patel is not alone - Truss yesterday accused Chris Bryant (Labour MP) of voting to resist sanctions. She then doubled down on that view until she was called out correctly and muttered an apology blaming her staff. As Bryant has pointed out, if that is how her staff prepare her for a simple committee meeting how can we have confidence in her discussions with her foreign counter-parts! I could go on...

Wheniwasyourage Wed 09-Mar-22 16:13:24

The answer to the title of this thread is, IMO, Nothing and Nothing.

Luckygirl3 Wed 09-Mar-22 16:18:47

Feathering their nests - they have it down to a fine art.

westendgirl Wed 09-Mar-22 16:32:35

I watched PM's questions today and the baying cackling barracking from the Tory party benches while members from other parties were speaking made me think of children in a playground. It's almost as if they attend this session for a good laugh.
There are some good tory M.P.s who do care for this nation (yesterday Alec Shelbrooke made a passioned plea for the Home Office to get a grip~)but too many have been appointed to make the ~P.M. look good by comparison.Let's hope the ballot box will sound them out.







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westendgirl Wed 09-Mar-22 16:34:19

Should read let's hope (my dog's snoring is putting me off )

Visgir1 Wed 09-Mar-22 17:39:57

And just seen this....
Boris Second Only to Zelenskyy in Ukrainian Popularity Poll.

Freya5 Wed 09-Mar-22 17:43:09

westendgirl

I watched PM's questions today and the baying cackling barracking from the Tory party benches while members from other parties were speaking made me think of children in a playground. It's almost as if they attend this session for a good laugh.
There are some good tory M.P.s who do care for this nation (yesterday Alec Shelbrooke made a passioned plea for the Home Office to get a grip~)but too many have been appointed to make the ~P.M. look good by comparison.Let's hope the ballot box will sound them out.

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Well Davis Ed was hackling just as much. Or is that allowed.

DaisyAnne Wed 09-Mar-22 17:44:31

westendgirl

I watched PM's questions today and the baying cackling barracking from the Tory party benches while members from other parties were speaking made me think of children in a playground. It's almost as if they attend this session for a good laugh.
There are some good tory M.P.s who do care for this nation (yesterday Alec Shelbrooke made a passioned plea for the Home Office to get a grip~)but too many have been appointed to make the ~P.M. look good by comparison.Let's hope the ballot box will sound them out.

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I rather think Alec Shelbrooke has had a lot of correspondence about this and felt he had to look good, westendgirl. As far as I can see he has never voted against the government. He was one of the Tory Anti-facemask group; I see him as pretty far right. He is my MP and he sings the party tune. Our town will be in a different constituency at the next election so his constituency will be changing. That will be interesting and possibly starting to worry him.

Freya5 Wed 09-Mar-22 17:45:09

CvD66

LondonMzFitz How can this government justify Patel's trip to Poland (4 Mar) claiming to be to announce the opening of the UK visa scheme - which 4 days later had 'managed' to issue 500 visas. What a flagrant waste of money, raising hopes which she has no intention of fulfilling!! Patel is not alone - Truss yesterday accused Chris Bryant (Labour MP) of voting to resist sanctions. She then doubled down on that view until she was called out correctly and muttered an apology blaming her staff. As Bryant has pointed out, if that is how her staff prepare her for a simple committee meeting how can we have confidence in her discussions with her foreign counter-parts! I could go on...

How do you get these numbers, is it officially announced, or from a journalist?

Kim19 Wed 09-Mar-22 17:56:27

For the first time in my life I can't find a single redeeming feature in any of them. They come over as so inept and impractical at every level on every topic. How I long for another election. Very much a first for me even in spite of the renowned Bertha's disdain.

JdotJ Wed 09-Mar-22 18:02:02

As my dear (now departed) dad used to say
"They've all got their noses in the trough"!

GagaJo Wed 09-Mar-22 18:33:20

It's a game to them. And a source of huge income for them and their friends.

It's the Conservative value of winning and competitiveness. You don't actually have to be good at what you do. You just have to be able to compete and win. All one big competitive game. Which literally costs lives.

Casdon Wed 09-Mar-22 18:51:24

I’m by no means a Tory GagaJo, but I think other Tory governments would have handled this war very differently from the current incompetents. We are in the worst governmental purple patch in the last 50 years or more.

M0nica Wed 09-Mar-22 19:28:04

To be fair, and I will risk it, since most people know I am NOT a supporter of the current government.

When it has come to arming and training the Ukrainians, Britain is in the forefront. We were supplying weapons and training the UKrain army,long before the EU deigned to get involved. We had British soldiers in Ukraine training their army when the war started and they had to make a quick exit.

We have consistently and regularly sent £ millions of modern up to date weaponry and tonight it was announced that we were stepping up the size and complexity of weapons we areproviding and more is being considered. The only problem being the Ukrainians have not been trained to use them www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/09/uk-plans-to-send-anti-aircraft-weapons-to-ukraine-says-ben-wallace

Jane43 Wed 09-Mar-22 19:28:19

NannyJan53

I cannot understand why so many people do not understand this concept Jane43 it has always been the same with the Conservative party.

My mother explained this to me before I was even able to vote and it has stayed with me. She didn’t force her opinions on me which gave it more impact.