Gender? Sex? Help me out please.

I agree VS. My dating pool is diverse, as my partners have been.

Don't knock someone till you've tried them has always been my motto. There have been some 'interesting' dates.

Do you think lesbians exclude men from their dating pool because of something they dont agree with them about.

I haven't excluded women from my dating pool because of anything I dislike or don't agree with about them.

Actually women aren't excluded from my dating pool but I was making a point

Oh and if lesbians are bigoted for excluding men from their dating pool then so is every straight woman on here who has excluded women from their dating pool.

Its really deep seated homophobia, and pretending dating and going out with a friend is the same thing doesnt hide it. Its the type of homophobia that we all heard in the 90 ' s its so depressing.

Granhgravy they still are trans

Its who they are on the inside, the process of transition just changes the outside

VioletSky

You are mistaken if you believe being trans is a choice.

We are fortunate that in the U.K. that it is possible to transition, in many countries it is illegal and they do not have the right to choose to do so.

GrannyGravy13

VioletSky

granygravy all those things are choices not appearance

That is what the thread is about, choices.

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You are mistaken if you believe being trans is a choice.

GagaJo

Racism is a choice.

Sexism is a choice.

Homophobia is a choice.

Doesn't make them right.

Who on this thread has said any of the choices you have mentioned are right Gagajo ?

Racism is a choice.

Sexism is a choice.

Homophobia is a choice.

Doesn't make them right.

VioletSky

granygravy all those things are choices not appearance

That is what the thread is about, choices.

granygravy all those things are choices not appearance

I wouldn’t date anyone with any if the following known characteristics

Racist
Habitual Liar
Philanderer
Thief
Extreme religious beliefs

I do not have a problem with anyone knowing this, and I would say it to anyone who asked.

We do not have to date someone just to make someone else feel comfortable or happy.

VS, I remember when I lived overseas, a friend said to me, 'I don't find Asian men attractive.' I remember looking askansce at her. She had no idea she was being racist. Obviously, she 100% had the right to date who she wanted. But to couch it in racism was wrong.

Doodledog

GagaJo

You really don't like women, do you?

Is there any need to make personal comments? Can't we stay focused on the topic rather than resorting to personal insults?

It’s neither a personal comment nor an insult. It is an observation based on the number of times ‘oh but women do that too’ is used to defend the indefensible.

'An observation' that just happens to be rude. We could all make 'observations' like that but manage to restrain.

This is one of the reasons these threads derail because of posters unable to distinguish between discussion and getting personal.

Dickens I think I can see why you have responded as you have but, that's not what I was saying...

You were being honest and trying to make a point

It's just that is a point that doesn't need making out there in general life though does it? So it's not really necessary to say

Anyone that I don't find attractive someone else will so why would I make any demographic feel bad about themselves by stating what I don't find attractive? Why would I make any 1 individual feel bad by saying it to their face? I certainly am not wonderful or beautiful enough that anyone else is beneath me in attractiveness anyway.

We can keep our personal preferences to ourselves and instead of saying "i would never date xyz" simply say, we all have the freedom to chose who we have a relationship with

I'm saying

I won't ever agree with people saying "I won't date people who..."

I agree people get to choose who they have relationships with

Same thing but a different approach

VioletSky

If someone wouldn't date an overweight person, I wouldn't question that that is the truth. I would question if they were saying that to an overweight person..

That's the difference.

OK so you (blanket statement) would not ever date a trans person? Was it necessary to say it when you could just not do it?

It's quite a big difference if you think about it

Well. I told the truth when I said I had never been attracted to overweight men. That of course doesn't mean quite the same as "I would never date an overweight man" because I might have, if I'd met one I liked.

If it helps, I like nice people

GagaJo

No VS. Quite. And we oldies already have the unfortunate label for being behind the times.

I know right

No VS. Quite. And we oldies already have the unfortunate label for being behind the times.

GagaJo

*You really don't like women, do you?*

Is there any need to make personal comments? Can't we stay focused on the topic rather than resorting to personal insults?

It’s neither a personal comment nor an insult. It is an observation based on the number of times ‘oh but women do that too’ is used to defend the indefensible.

volver some platforms haven't set any limits yet on how its acceptable to talk about trans people.

Given the rate of escalation I've noticed, even just over the last 6 months, that's going to have to change eventually.

No one is going to want to be the last "safe space" for discrimination

GagaJo

We're going down the rabbit hole now. Blaming people for medical wait times.

I am not blaming anyone for anything Gagajo just pointing out the medically obvious fact that if a human being has a penis and testicles i.e. male genitalia then they are a man.

If you know or can prove different please post a link to the evidence

Yes, apologies Iam64. Its not funny, you're right.

Its disappointing.