Gender? Sex? Help me out please.

GillT57

Well that didn't take long. Within minutes we have someone who hadn't even read the bloody book carping on with all sorts of silly conspiracies about why J K Rowling chose to use a nom de plume. Of no relevance and no help.

Everything I have said is based on her own words in interviews. I'm very fair like that

volver sounds good to me, I periodically abandon them

I see a new title and think, there are a marginalised group being discussed in a bad light and they don't have many voice here, so I should be one

Then it gets a bit repetitive and personal and I realise I have nothing more to say anyway

Well that didn't take long. Within minutes we have someone who hadn't even read the bloody book carping on with all sorts of silly conspiracies about why J K Rowling chose to use a nom de plume. Of no relevance and no help.

Why will you be avoiding threads about trans issues in future, volver? You asked for opinions on the subject - is this thread not what you expected?

I do appreciate all the comments and I think I do understand more than I did a few hours ago. I'm not sure what I expected but threads have a life of their own and this one is what it is, no problem with that.

I won't be joining in future threads because I still find myself with no strong feelings either way. Its not high on my list of things to worry about.

I'm sorry if this offends anyone, but it seems a bit confected.

Now where's that hard hat...

In addition, when I lost my engagement ring when I took my gloves off, my eyes swept the pavement where I’d been walking, until luckily, I found it.

I really shouldn’t let myself be tempted, but if you don’t like an author, for any reason, you can always find things that don’t suit you. But this is a fun deviation from the subject.
trisher
It's not really about the subject but I just looked at the books she's written as RG and one had an audio sample. I fell about laughing when Strike stood "his eyes sweeping the pavement" Oh come on no one writes such tosh!!!

trisher
Oh come on no one writes such tosh!!!
That from you trisher????

Granygravy it's a bit more than that, she even gave her pseudonym an entire back story that would lend weight to "his" knowledge of the subject matter.

She didn't just change a name, she dressed up

The style of her writing is also irrelevant, there really is no need to pull it to pieces, just because you disagree with her stance on the ability of human beings to change sex.

There is a lot of ‘tosh’ published. The only reason I can see for singling out JKR for vitriol is because she has stated her belief that sex is immutable - hardly a literary criticism, but it goes against the No Debate mantra of the TRAs.

Why will you be avoiding threads about trans issues in future, volver? You asked for opinions on the subject - is this thread not what you expected?

trisher

It's not really about the subject but I just looked at the books she's written as RG and one had an audio sample. I fell about laughing when Strike stood "his eyes sweeping the pavement" Oh come on no one writes such tosh!!!

Plenty of tosh written/posted on GN every day…

It's not really about the subject but I just looked at the books she's written as RG and one had an audio sample. I fell about laughing when Strike stood "his eyes sweeping the pavement" Oh come on no one writes such tosh!!!

trisher

GrannyGravy13

trisher

JK Rowling does write as Robert Galbraith which when you think about is is a bit double standards. She's allowed to be a man when she feels like it but men aren't allowed to be women!

She is not pretending to be a man, she is writing under a nom de plume something totally different, and something which has been done for hundreds of years by both sexes.

She has had some of the most horrendous trolling and death threats for sticking up for natal women.

But the use of male names was linked with the fact that women couldn't get published. Either that or the woman led a male life, like Georges Sand. Neither of these reasons seem to apply to JKR.

Any one can call themselves whatever name they like, I assume your name is not trisher in the real world?

A female using a male name, is totally different to a female identifying as a man, and vice-a-versa.

Rowling has said that the character of Dennis Creed, the serial killer in her new novel who has provoked accusations of transphobia because he dresses up in a woman’s coat and wig, is loosely based on two real-life murderers.

Creed lures his victims into his van by wearing a woman’s coat and wig

www.theguardian.com/books/2020/sep/17/jk-rowling-villain-womens-clothes-based-on-real-cases-robert-galbraith-troubled-blood

...Sticks head over parapet...

Ilovecheese

No, The book written by JK Rowling as Robert Galbraith is not about a man dressing as a woman to murder women. That statement is not true.
If you don't want to read the book, o.k. just do not misrepresent that book because someone else has told lies about it.

Which book are you talking about?

Whether or not one likes the writing of JK Rowling is completely beside the point. Telling untruths about it does not help anybody.

No, The book written by JK Rowling as Robert Galbraith is not about a man dressing as a woman to murder women. That statement is not true.
If you don't want to read the book, o.k. just do not misrepresent that book because someone else has told lies about it.

What have trolling and death threats to do with discussing her use of a man's name?

Granygravy she is writing as a man because he feels more people will buy and read her books that way.

I think the truth is she actually isn't all that great of a writer (I read a lot so I am basing this on my own experience) she is a bit of a one hit wonder.

Death threats are disgusting, as much as I may not like or agree with her views (which are publically expressed so open to public discussion) those voices are beneath contempt and not representative of many trans people and their allies, the same way those who issue death threats to trans people are not representative of anyone else.

GrannyGravy13

trisher

JK Rowling does write as Robert Galbraith which when you think about is is a bit double standards. She's allowed to be a man when she feels like it but men aren't allowed to be women!

She is not pretending to be a man, she is writing under a nom de plume something totally different, and something which has been done for hundreds of years by both sexes.

She has had some of the most horrendous trolling and death threats for sticking up for natal women.

But the use of male names was linked with the fact that women couldn't get published. Either that or the woman led a male life, like Georges Sand. Neither of these reasons seem to apply to JKR.

trisher

JK Rowling does write as Robert Galbraith which when you think about is is a bit double standards. She's allowed to be a man when she feels like it but men aren't allowed to be women!

She is not pretending to be a man, she is writing under a nom de plume something totally different, and something which has been done for hundreds of years by both sexes.

She has had some of the most horrendous trolling and death threats for sticking up for natal women.

Have you read her reasons for doing so trisher?

So pretending to be part of the patriarchy (something she claims to despise) is OK if it is for profit?

I think she is projecting when she accuses trans women and their allies of being part of the patriarchy

I'm reminded of something a character said in a favourite novel of mine:
"People are not at their best talking about their religion, and it is wise to accept that as the truth."
Same could be said of gender politics.

JK Rowling does write as Robert Galbraith which when you think about is is a bit double standards. She's allowed to be a man when she feels like it but men aren't allowed to be women!

Ilovecheese

VioletSky stated
"Jk Rowling has been a huge disappointment to me as she has to many using her social media presence to influence politics and gender politics as she has.

Did you know, about the same time she became involved with all this, she was releasing a book under a male pseudonym about a man dressing as a woman to murder women?

Something about it all just doesn't sit right with me"

That statement is untrue. VioelSky It would perhaps be better if you actually read the book before repeating other people's take on it.

Actually it is true, I read part of it, she isn't getting my money though just so I can read the whole thing and still probably not have my sentence accepted on the internet