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Kate & Will's Caribbean Trip

(156 Posts)
Aspen Wed 23-Mar-22 15:56:34

They appear to be having a great time, far the troubles the rest of us are coping with. I am wondering what GB gets out of it apart from prior warning that once the Queen goes many of these islands will want to choose there own head of state. Sorry Will, I don't think it is going to be you.

maddyone Wed 23-Mar-22 20:07:59

Whitewavemark2

I am beginning to think that the monarchy has had its day.

Me too. I used to support the monarchy, but I’m changing my mind.

maddyone Wed 23-Mar-22 20:09:15

JaneJudge

I was actually embarrassed for and of them

This as well. I feel sorry for them being paraded out like this. I’d hate it if it was me.

Grany Wed 23-Mar-22 20:20:23

Bungle22

This tone deaf tour seemed like something from the 1950s.
Barbados became a Republic recently, apparently many other Caribbean nations are considering following them. Time for a Referendum here.

Too True

Newquay Wed 23-Mar-22 20:48:54

As others have said the monarchy has had its day

volver Wed 23-Mar-22 20:49:29

Oh, I do like this thread smile

maddyone Wed 23-Mar-22 20:52:48

Glad to be of service volver grin

volver Wed 23-Mar-22 20:53:49

grin grin

Grandma70s Wed 23-Mar-22 21:01:07

As some others have said, it’s unlikely to have been their decision. They’ll have been told to go. They seem to be doing a good job in the circumstances.

volver Wed 23-Mar-22 21:05:56

Nobody will ever convince me that they really don't want to be doing this and would rather we weren't asking them to do it.

My job involved meeting people all day every day, wearing clothes I didn't particularly like and being interested in what people were telling me. Plus a whole lot of other stuff which was actually work, not just PR. And I never expected anybody to be pleased to see me and I didn't expect to live in a palace, or have a hairdresser travelling with me.

If you don't want to be a future King and Queen and go on luxurious visits to exotic places (and even non-exotic places), off you go the pair of you. We'll cope.

Urmstongran Wed 23-Mar-22 21:11:01

Poor show, Jamaica. It's like asking someone over for dinner and saying we don't really like you, please don't come back. 100% fine with them leaving - it’s their democratic choice after all, but their timing is off. What is it with people who lack manners this week?

Grandma70s Wed 23-Mar-22 21:12:32

Well, volver, you are obviously superior, so just go on congratulating yourself for not being a monarchist.

JaneJudge Wed 23-Mar-22 21:16:02

It the people who have manners don't have manners week
shocking isn't it
when we have to listen to
the those that think they have manners manners week, every single week
when
they don't have manners

ExDancer Wed 23-Mar-22 21:16:41

Looking at the photos, the smiles look a little strained just now, I think they must be acutely aware that they're not really welcome.

volver Wed 23-Mar-22 21:26:13

Grandma70s

Well, volver, you are obviously superior, so just go on congratulating yourself for not being a monarchist.

You seem nice.

Is this what monarchists are like? ?

Iam64 Wed 23-Mar-22 21:40:54

The Queen has held the commonwealth dear but, this isn’t the 1940’s or 50’s. The Empire, colonialism, Black Lives Matter, the focus on the fact slave owners were compensated when slavery was abolished. The history of how slaves in the West Indies survived during and after slavery needs to be told. William and Kate appear to be continuing the royal tour tradition of embarrassing dancing and Kate changing into several outfits a day. Surely at this point in our history and, with the pandemic, war in Europe a less flimsy, rather patronising way of visiting countries that were Empire could be found

Urmstongran Wed 23-Mar-22 21:42:56

Let’s wish them all the best. ??

maddyone Wed 23-Mar-22 22:28:13

I agree Iam, I used to be a monarchist but I’ve gradually found myself changing position, but given that we have got a monarchy (at the moment anyway) I’m finding myself cringing at this tour. I feel sorry for them, it’s so dated and out dated now. I’d absolutely hate to be Catherine being wheeled out like this.

JenniferEccles Wed 23-Mar-22 22:38:24

It would appear then that a lot of you missed the pictures on the tv news showing enthusiastic crowds cheering them in Jamaica.
Yes there were a few protesters but from the piece I saw they were vastly outnumbered by those people smiling, cheering and eager to shake hands with them.
I loved Catherine’s beautiful, colourful sundress. Just perfect for the Caribbean.

I wonder if they had an opportunity to visit the famous Dunn’s River Falls? Somewhere tucked away I have pictures of us there when we visited Jamaica on a cruise.

Blossoming Wed 23-Mar-22 22:44:44

Look at the faces of the people in the background of some of those photos. They tell a different story to the one the RF PR machine are trying to portray.

Honeysuckleberries Wed 23-Mar-22 22:55:28

Do other royal families do tours like this around their former colonies? For example the Spanish royal family?

nadateturbe Wed 23-Mar-22 23:10:15

^ We are extremely privileged to have a royal family to represent our nation abroad.^

Just your opinion Urmstongran*. Many disagree.

vegansrock Thu 24-Mar-22 03:20:33

Why on earth do they need to tour these countries? What’s the point? Just to bolster their own position?

Lucca Thu 24-Mar-22 04:33:01

Urmstongran

Poor show, Jamaica. It's like asking someone over for dinner and saying we don't really like you, please don't come back. 100% fine with them leaving - it’s their democratic choice after all, but their timing is off. What is it with people who lack manners this week?

Please tell me you’re not on about Nazanin .

Lucca Thu 24-Mar-22 04:39:56

Grandma70s

Well, volver, you are obviously superior, so just go on congratulating yourself for not being a monarchist.

Oh I missed Volver doing that ? Where did she congratulate herself on not being a monarchist?

It is interesting on this thread though to see some who clearly are pro RF/monarchy nonetheless expressing concern about/distaste for this kind of tour , nice to see a bit of flexibility of thought!

Iam64 Thu 24-Mar-22 08:04:31

I read this morning that the aim for independence and the damage of the legacy of slavery has been raised with William by politicians. He made a speech at last evenings dinner event, criticising slavery.
These royal tours are IMO outdated and rather embarrassing. Especially in the context of the legacy of the empire. If we maintain a monarchy, I’d like to see it hugely modernised