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More Tory sleaze

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varian Sat 02-Apr-22 20:54:11

Is this sort of behaviour from Tory MPs just par for the course these days?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10679563/Conservative-MP-David-Warburton-suspended-amid-sex-drugs-allegations.html

Urmstongran Sun 03-Apr-22 15:47:22

He’s a liability.
To himself. His family. His constituents.
This is unravelling in a way he never imagined when he took that selfie.

DiamondLily Sun 03-Apr-22 15:43:25

He's somewhat "conveniently" been hospitalised now.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10681437/Cocaine-pictures-Tory-MP-Warburtons-wife-says-hes-hospital-severe-shock-stress.html

GrannyGravy13 Sun 03-Apr-22 15:42:38

BBC are reporting that he has been admitted to a Psychiatric Hospital.

JaneJudge Sun 03-Apr-22 15:06:57

of course, we all must remember the Russians made him do it..

Callistemon21 Sun 03-Apr-22 15:01:21

Whitewavemark2

Here is the idiot posing next to his line of cocaine

Good grief!!
You couldn't make it up (as they say).

Add Rachmanism to that Urmstongran

JaneJudge Sun 03-Apr-22 14:59:21

old enough to know better

Whitewavemark2 Sun 03-Apr-22 14:55:53

Here is the idiot posing next to his line of cocaine

Urmstongran Sun 03-Apr-22 14:38:45

I bet Angela Rayner would have a name for him.
Me too.
Maybe slightly different but certainly not complimentary.

Coastpath Sun 03-Apr-22 14:28:50

In addition to the alleged harassment and failing to declare the Russian loan he's one of the MPs who voted against the bill to make landlords ensure rental properties are fit for habitation. Funnily enough he is a landlord who profits from letting property.

It's hard to see him as an innocent victim of a sting even if that is what senior Tories would have us believe via the medium of the Daily Mail.

volver Sun 03-Apr-22 14:24:49

paddyann54

HISTORICAL problems? Honestly I dont even know some of the names you mentioned .I thought you meant current Labour/libdem and SNP sleaze.
I know Pete Wishart had an affair ...he left his wife because of it but with a record like the PM has ..one affair hardly seems worth mentioning .

I didn't know that. Of all the former members of Runrig, Pete would have been last on my list of "people most likely to have an affair" shock

Dinahmo Sun 03-Apr-22 14:18:23

My understanding is that the claimant worked for him. In such circumstances one is supposed to report the complaint to your HR person. In this instance it was his wife so the woman couldn't complain to her.

He was elected in 2015 when MPs could still employ members of their family. The rules were subsequently change (in 2016 I think) so newer intake could not employ wives, children etc.

JaneJudge Sun 03-Apr-22 13:55:37

he doesn't sound like he has any boundaries at all and that in itself is dangerous

Casdon Sun 03-Apr-22 13:54:16

Maudi

A third woman, who is believed to have met Mr Warburton through politics, also made claims of illegal drug use against, saying that he snorted 'line after line after line' of cocaine at her London home on February 1 after he 'insisted' on coming over.

She claims the married father-of-two asked her to buy the drug for him and that he would pay her for it. (copied from The Daily Mail)

I think if he is guilty he deserves to be punished accordingly. But the third woman said he asked her to buy the drug and he would pay for it, but who knows if this is true or not and I certainly wouldn't know where to buy drugs from, would you, but this woman did so she must have snorted coke before.

Also I have always thought in rape cases or sexual assault cases, all parties should be named not just the man.

Maudi your last sentence has really shocked me. If a man raped you, would you want your name on the news and in the papers? That would be absolutely the last thing I’d want.

paddyann54 Sun 03-Apr-22 13:53:40

HISTORICAL problems? Honestly I dont even know some of the names you mentioned .I thought you meant current Labour/libdem and SNP sleaze.
I know Pete Wishart had an affair ...he left his wife because of it but with a record like the PM has ..one affair hardly seems worth mentioning .

GillT57 Sun 03-Apr-22 13:34:08

Ok, so let's assume it was a sting, the fact remains that he willingly bought and snorted cocaine, willingly pestered women, at the very least he shows a shocking lack of judgement or is he so convinced or his irresistibility that he assumed that the women would be grateful for his sleazy attention? He also borrowed money from a dodgy Russian and it is alleged, arranged a meeting between said dodgy Russian and Jacob Rees-Mogg. ALLEGEDLY.

DaisyAnne Sun 03-Apr-22 13:25:46

Indeed Jane

JaneJudge Sun 03-Apr-22 12:54:41

DaisyAnne

JaneJudge

even if you look at most party councillors at town level, they have some interest in business and passing that business through. It is about power.

I have been impressed recently by how our independent councillors expose these behaviours and in some cases plain sight corruption

It has always been about power JaneJudge. There is a need for it to be about that.

However, the question is "the power to do what?". I am not suggesting left or right but good or evil, selfish or altruistic, moral or immoral, etc.

money and self interest it seems here

Maudi Sun 03-Apr-22 12:49:45

A third woman, who is believed to have met Mr Warburton through politics, also made claims of illegal drug use against, saying that he snorted 'line after line after line' of cocaine at her London home on February 1 after he 'insisted' on coming over.

She claims the married father-of-two asked her to buy the drug for him and that he would pay her for it. (copied from The Daily Mail)

I think if he is guilty he deserves to be punished accordingly. But the third woman said he asked her to buy the drug and he would pay for it, but who knows if this is true or not and I certainly wouldn't know where to buy drugs from, would you, but this woman did so she must have snorted coke before.

Also I have always thought in rape cases or sexual assault cases, all parties should be named not just the man.

DaisyAnne Sun 03-Apr-22 12:33:58

JaneJudge

even if you look at most party councillors at town level, they have some interest in business and passing that business through. It is about power.

I have been impressed recently by how our independent councillors expose these behaviours and in some cases plain sight corruption

It has always been about power JaneJudge. There is a need for it to be about that.

However, the question is "the power to do what?". I am not suggesting left or right but good or evil, selfish or altruistic, moral or immoral, etc.

Madgran77 Sun 03-Apr-22 12:27:41

Aren’t we all jumping to conclusions here? Could it have been a set up by a foreign power? MP’s have been warned to be careful. Removing the party whip and investigating is the right thing to do. It will be interesting to see if there is foundation to the allegations. Then we can call him out

Hmmm. He may well have been a victim of a sting but one doesn't end up sitting in a room next to several lines f of coke or get recorded/ send messages re dealers unless one is up for it and therefore vulnerable to the sting!

Urmstongran Sun 03-Apr-22 12:26:53

25Avalon

Aren’t we all jumping to conclusions here? Could it have been a set up by a foreign power? MP’s have been warned to be careful. Removing the party whip and investigating is the right thing to do. It will be interesting to see if there is foundation to the allegations. Then we can call him out.

Fair point Avalon I wasn’t aware of the background story.

JaneJudge Sun 03-Apr-22 12:11:13

Obviously i might just live in dodge central but I doubt it.

JaneJudge Sun 03-Apr-22 12:10:18

even if you look at most party councillors at town level, they have some interest in business and passing that business through. It is about power.

I have been impressed recently by how our independent councillors expose these behaviours and in some cases plain sight corruption

Callistemon21 Sun 03-Apr-22 12:07:59

GillT57

The fact is that the allegations are there, he would appear to be a piece of work, and as Urmstongran has shown with her post, the disgust is not based on party politics, it is based on him being an unsuitable person for the job, irrespective of his party affiliation. Whataboutery is not relevant here, the man is a disgrace, and quite possible a security risk if he has, as has been alleged, taken a loan from a Russian who was flagged by the FCA as high risk, seems to have a cocaine habit, and is a sexual predator. The Labour party and the LibDems have had their unsavoury members too, and have dealt with it; I fail to see the relevance. By the way, in your fevered desire to distract from this shameful episode, some of you have assumed that all those critical of this man's behaviour are 'Labourites', not correct, but can we assume that those trying to deflect from this are 'Johnsonites'?

Why is it so many of these kinds of people are attracted into politics?

Is it because they have that type of arrogant, greedy and immoral personality or is the whole culture of political life in this country to blame?

There are, of course, a lot of decent politicians but the numbers who attract attention for all the wrong reasons would seem to be disproportionate compared to the population as a whole.

25Avalon Sun 03-Apr-22 11:50:36

Aren’t we all jumping to conclusions here? Could it have been a set up by a foreign power? MP’s have been warned to be careful. Removing the party whip and investigating is the right thing to do. It will be interesting to see if there is foundation to the allegations. Then we can call him out.