Are the Royal Family losing their touch?

But how did you know that somebody got on to GN and told them you'd been banned, volver?

I'm wary of saying anything about how GN works in mysterious ways, because they are quite rightly wary of people discussing how they communicate with posters individually

But basically, because they told me so.

But how did you know that somebody got on to GN and told them you'd been banned, volver?

I think I'm a bit tired of the RF now. But then again it's the endless chit chat seemingly everywhere. The bowing and curtseying has been voluntary for a while now. I couldn't bow. I'd never get up again.

I blame the Internet for everything .

Yes, you're really funny. Ha ha.

volver

Who was removed from GN?

Just asking because when I voluntarily left then later came back, somebody got on to GN and told them I had previously been banned.

Wonder who that was? Just asking. ??

No idea. I don’t do that sort of thing. Maybe you do? But is that what thrawn means?

Who was removed from GN?

Just asking because when I voluntarily left then later came back, somebody got on to GN and told them I had previously been banned.

Wonder who that was? Just asking. ??

Thrawn-is that what being removed from GN and coming back as a different name but with the same comments means? Just asking!??

maddy did you not say ‘bowing and curtsying in the morning ? Not in private you haven’t seen this

No one has to bow or curtsy , people can be told but they can
refuse, it is not compulsory,

Goodness I had to look up thrawn. I thought it might be a Scottish word. Anyway it means stubborn, so yes, I think the Queen is stubborn. She was stubbornly determined to include Andrew in a prominent role during the recent memorial to Philip. She stubbornly refuses to use a wheelchair apparently. She stubbornly refuses to hand over to Charles and retire. I fully understand that others don’t agree and I fully respect their opinions. I just don’t agree with them.

I have seen the royal family bowing and curtsying to the Queen on many occasions. People receiving an honour are told to bow or curtesy. In my opinion these actions, whilst seeming harmless enough, are actually an open and evident portrayal of the special treatment that the Queen and other royals are deemed to be worthy of. It may not seem important, but it is a symbol of their supposed superiority. That’s why I particularly dislike it. What’s wrong with a normal handshake? Why must it include a bow or curtsy?

Mollygo

^Who else would promise a nation that their whole life will be dedicated to ‘the people’^

Who else indeed?
How many people have been unable to keep their marriage vows-to one person, never mind ‘the people’?
How many MPs can’t keep their election promises even to ‘the people’ who voted for them.
At the time that speech was made, it was probably what was expected of HM. I wouldn’t know as I wasn’t around.

Someone who thinks that the country is the same as it was 74 years ago.

Someone who thinks the promising to serve means being Queen till you drop.

Someone who doesn't believe that the best service could be provided by letting someone more capable take on the role and the duties it entails.

Someone quite thrawn.

I wonder if by the time the Cambridge children have grown up the thing may well have changed a lot or even died a death?

Who else would promise a nation that their whole life will be dedicated to ‘the people’

Who else indeed?
How many people have been unable to keep their marriage vows-to one person, never mind ‘the people’?
How many MPs can’t keep their election promises even to ‘the people’ who voted for them.
At the time that speech was made, it was probably what was expected of HM. I wouldn’t know as I wasn’t around.

Not that anyone would want to sit next to PA - ideal seating plan.

maddy how much of the ‘bowing and curtsying in the morning is really carried out, the press lists who has to bow and curtsy to whom but we don’t know if it done, in public yes,
but in private? The public don’t have to bow and curtsy , some
choose to .

I really don’t agree the Queen thinks she is a superior human
being.

This a world wide condition, I see it on a daily basis as I suspect many of you do.
It is not a condition applicable solely to the RF.

The arrogance comes from being told and brought up to believe that they are different from other people and the belief that being royal somehow makes them special Annie. Who else would promise a nation that their whole life will be dedicated to ‘the people?’ Who else would expect their family to bow and curtesy to them on first seeing them in the morning? This is extraordinary arrogance born out a belief that she is superior to everyone else including her own family. It’s not the Queen’s fault. She was raised to believe this.

However I respect your point of view Annie.

Gilly3

Not that anyone would really want to sit next to Boris.

That made me laugh but how very true.

Unfair maddy she didn’t speak of being Queen when she was
21, but she was heir and I doubt she thought her mother would
give birth to a son . Why was she arrogant?

volver

Maddyone - prediction: Someone will come along and say "but she made a promise when she was 21!!!" ?

Thankfully it didn’t happen. However, the Queen made that declaration at 21 years of age. She didn’t actually become Queen for several more years, and so she was making a promise as a princess, not a Queen. Extraordinarily arrogant in my opinion.

Well I hope she doesn’t live another ten years. A H of S aged 106 is beyond ridiculous. I want a H of S who can do the job. The Queen is now unable to attend her own garden parties, let alone do anything rather more important.

Well her mum lived to 102 without the modern medical treatments we have now so maybe 105 is possible.

Another ten years ?? She’s be 106! However I absolutely agree with you on the stepping down/retiring.

I was a royalist but I now feel that they are an elderly, creaking institution. If the Queen lives another ten years which she may well do, Charles will be in his mid 80’s when he takes the throne, yet another elderly creaking HofS. If he lives till 100 then William will be in his 70s too when he gets on the throne. Generations of RF just waiting all their lives for the job they were born for. Compare this to the Dutch RF who abdicate in their 60s and therefore have younger Kings/ Queens on a steady rota. I pity William and Charles on a personal level. I wouldn’t fancy taking on more work in my 80’s. What a grotty system. I’d much rather have a HofS who was younger and capable of doing a proper job.

errmmmm....

commonslibrary.parliament.uk/decision-of-the-supreme-court-on-the-prorogation-of-parliament/

Ive always felt pretty indifferent towards the royals and can summon no enthusiasm for this coming jubilee. At a time where most families are finding it harder just to make ends meet and afford the basics having a small over privilaged group of people who live in the most incredible luxury seems increasingly out of kilter with the 21st century.

Luckily it didn't happen!