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Are the Royal Family losing their touch?

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volver Sun 03-Apr-22 16:22:31

A couple of weeks ago we had the disastrous PR associated with the Caribbean tour, and now the judgement of the Queen is being questioned, for giving Prince Andrew such a prominent role in the Duke of Edinburgh's memorial service.

The position of the Royal Family depends very strongly on their acceptance by, and the support of, the public both here and overseas; are they losing that?

Bridgeit Fri 06-May-22 17:33:40

Sarcasm doesn’t alter the facts.

volver Fri 06-May-22 17:32:35

Oh yes. Factory-loads. I forgot.

Bridgeit Fri 06-May-22 17:31:42

I am more concerned that some don’t acknowledge that the RF generate jobs & incomes etc.

volver Fri 06-May-22 17:28:47

Its Zoom. Probably costs about tuppence ha'penny. Costs a fiver each to attend.

Shall I send you the link?

Bridgeit Fri 06-May-22 17:27:04

Why is it odd, if folks speculate about, RF & cost. . .?
It would be good to know how much money is generated, how many staff are employed etc..

volver Fri 06-May-22 17:24:08

What an odd question.

Bridgeit Fri 06-May-22 17:21:54

Who funds this conference? Could it be better spent ?

Grany Fri 06-May-22 16:41:22

The International Anti-Monarchy Conference coincides with the Queen's jubilee weekend here in the UK. Republicans from around the world will be highlighting the common issues we face and the reasons why we should all hope for an end to monarchy.

We are still confirming the line-up, but we have speakers from the UK, Commonwealth, Europe and Asia who will be talking about monarchies, movements and a democratic future.

Devorgilla Thu 05-May-22 19:40:01

While I completely agree, as an adult, with the unnecessary expenditure and adoration aspects, there is part of me that makes myself stop and have a really hard look at how children will view this moment of a major historic event in their lifetime. Yes, I know many of us don't see it that way but we don't look through the eyes of a child. I would prefer a mug to a book. I still have my Coronation one. My sister has hers too, and her letter from the King (mass produced) to every child in the UK to thank them for their sacrifice during the war. She brought it down to show the children in her street when there was a 'war' celebration on. They were fascinated and all wanted to hold it.
What I am trying to say here is don't pour water on a child's delight at getting something they didn't expect. Many of them will cherish it and, for some, it will literally be the only gift they every get in childhood. I taught a boy, secondary school age Year 7, who was given a Gideon Bible at a school assembly. I don't think they do that anymore. He came to me and told me it was the only thing he had ever been given in his life and he would cherish it forever. I sometimes wonder if he did. He was Muslim and I suspected he would face difficulties with it in his community. So, let the children enjoy the moment. I think, with the passing of Elizabeth II a lot of these traditions will fade out as the 'old school' they are.

maddyone Thu 05-May-22 17:35:01

volver

The book, the "pageant" and the opportunistic and self-absorbed "dedication" of 70 trees to Her Majesty. Its a month away and I'm already alienated by the whole thing.

Incidentally, who is giving the Queen's Speech next week?

Me too.
It’s a shame the royal family couldn’t say don’t spend all that money for this anniversary, give it instead to buy medical supplies for the Ukraine.

volver Thu 05-May-22 17:28:09

I know I'll be unpopular, but here goes.

Children maypole dancing? Is it only me that's put in mind of the wicker man? confused

Callistemon21 Thu 05-May-22 16:55:28

something about lighting a beacon etc.

I remember lighting a beacon (well, not personally but we wuz there) on a Tor at the time of the Silver Jubilee then negotiating our way back down in the dark.

Joseanne Thu 05-May-22 16:52:29

Parsley3

I don’t actually know of any street parties that have been planned to celebrate the Jubilee. But maybe that’s just me.Parsley no mates.

Well, we could always turn the book into another Horrible Histories work.... lots of guts and gore, and multiple beheadings. The kids like that sort of stuff!
At school here they're practising Maypole dancing for the celebrations, though it's more a case of everyone tying each other in knots at the moment! There's going to be quizzes, dog show, afternoon tea, scones with cream first then jam ?, bouncy castles, something about lighting a beacon etc. Most of this takes place at the end of half term, but all the teachers who are in the country seem happy to come along to lend a hand.

OK, back to my ? agility trainng. Can't possibly let the side down in front of the kids.

volver Thu 05-May-22 16:32:37

p.s. it was only announced 4 days ago. Really hasn't inspired anything.

volver Thu 05-May-22 16:28:57

Callistemon21

Where Winnie the Pooh and his friends go?

I think it's supposed to be more of an inspiration and it has inspired more tree planting and forest regeneration.

Yep. Winnie must be a bit of a republican, I think, and can't believe it wink. I'm not sure its inspiring anyone. It's peak Royal Family. There's something that people love - let's associate ourselves with it!!!

Bridgeit Thu 05-May-22 16:24:52

No Trees, no humans, simple !

Callistemon21 Thu 05-May-22 16:24:03

Where Winnie the Pooh and his friends go?

I think it's supposed to be more of an inspiration and it has inspired more tree planting and forest regeneration.

volver Thu 05-May-22 16:18:42

These trees are there already. This isn't the canopy.

These are trees that the Queen and Charles think would be good PR for the Royal Family. Hundred Acre wood. The tree that Newton allegedly sat under when the apple bumped him on the bonce. ?

Callistemon21 Thu 05-May-22 16:11:10

Trees are good
Just saying ??

volver Thu 05-May-22 15:55:42

The book, the "pageant" and the opportunistic and self-absorbed "dedication" of 70 trees to Her Majesty. Its a month away and I'm already alienated by the whole thing.

Incidentally, who is giving the Queen's Speech next week?

Callistemon21 Thu 05-May-22 15:47:31

Thank you volver

I have no idea if DGC's school has opted in or not.

Joane123 Thu 05-May-22 15:45:54

Grany I couldn't agree more with your posts up thread.

The "book" my goodness, all this waste of money is breath taking when people are struggling to cope with their bills. I despair.

volver Thu 05-May-22 15:27:16

www.gov.uk/government/news/platinum-jubilee-book-to-arrive-in-primary-schools-from-mid-may

Callistemon21 Thu 05-May-22 15:14:44

Anniebach

Strange, making it compulsory for schools to buy the book

It had gone right over the top of my head!

However, having had a quick glance, is it free for primary age pupils but schools have to apply for it? Funded by Central Government?

I doubt schools would want to pay for a copy for each child, their resources are precious. But if it's free to schools, the only people who should have the right to refuse copies for the children are the parents, surely?
Beyond the remit of HT to decide whether or not their pupils should receive free copies as it is a slice of history.

Whether or not the UK government should be funding this at a cost of millions is another matter.

Anniebach Thu 05-May-22 15:04:42

Strange, making it compulsory for schools to buy the book