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Are the Royal Family losing their touch?

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volver Sun 03-Apr-22 16:22:31

A couple of weeks ago we had the disastrous PR associated with the Caribbean tour, and now the judgement of the Queen is being questioned, for giving Prince Andrew such a prominent role in the Duke of Edinburgh's memorial service.

The position of the Royal Family depends very strongly on their acceptance by, and the support of, the public both here and overseas; are they losing that?

Grany Thu 14-Apr-22 09:21:13

Funny how monarchists say “oh look at that country or that country to see what an awful idea a republic is”, yet now we have a law breaking PM and no way to get rid of him unless his own acolytes turn. A parliament made weak by crown powers, a head of state unable to get involved

nadateturbe Wed 13-Apr-22 20:16:57

Agree Bridgeit

pinkprincess Wed 13-Apr-22 18:48:32

LizzieDrip
I agree.

Bridgeit Wed 13-Apr-22 17:22:16

It wouldn’t be right to stop there , so it would then be a case of redistribution,
No where in the world is equal , we are rich beyond belief compared … how will it ever be resolved?
How can we watch the desperation all around us & do nothing or very little. In this regard we are on par with those you speak of.

LizzieDrip Wed 13-Apr-22 17:07:59

Grany - ‘who could disagree’ - let’s wait and see?

Grany Wed 13-Apr-22 16:27:51

LizzieDrip ✔ Couldn't agree more who could disagree

maddyone Wed 13-Apr-22 12:25:37

Lizziedrip ✔️

nadateturbe Wed 13-Apr-22 11:38:16

Lizziedrip

LizzieDrip Wed 13-Apr-22 10:19:55

Royal family is completely irrelevant and out of touch with 21st Century society. I would happily get rid of them. Turn their (many) houses into apartments and give to families currently being ripped off by private landlords. Let children play in the open spaces of their ridiculously manicured estates. Let them work for a living like the rest of us; stop sponging off the state because of so-called ‘birthright’; save the country millions. In a country where young parents are struggling to heat their meagre homes and feed their children, it is deeply immoral to have a royal family of such wealth and privilege, provided for by the taxpayer. I realise this is a hugely unpopular view on GN - but my opinion nevertheless.

Grany Wed 13-Apr-22 09:35:23

The duchy of Cornwall should not be given to William. He's managed this long without it; he can keep on doing so. The duchy should be folded back into the crown estate, with its revenues going to the treasury along with the rest of the crown estate revenue.
#takebacktheduchies

Why would anyone pay 22million quids to a year to Willliam the casual worker? He went to the Carribeans for a week and his next one day work is after a 4 week break.

Lucca Tue 12-Apr-22 12:15:24

Bridgeit

Me , it was a question to those who imply some are only attracted by fame & fortune.

I don’t think anyone said that on here.

Petera Tue 12-Apr-22 11:36:40

Grany Imagine if the result was different, where Labour had 300 seats and the Tories (in power) ended up with 285 seats and no other party had enough seats to give either side a majority. And imagine if the popular vote was marginally higher for the Tories than Labour.

This is more or less exactly what happened in the (first) 1974 GE when Heath initially tried to form a minority government.

Grany Tue 12-Apr-22 09:57:27

Latest polls predict a hung parliament. This result could also come about with the Tories getting more votes than Labour. Either way, in this situation we could face a constitutional crisis without an effective, independent head of state.

Britain Elects
Apr 11

Britain Predicts — model update

If an election was held today...

LAB: 293 MPs (+91)
CON: 264 (-101)
LDEM: 13 (+2)

An elected head of state with a limited constitutional role can sack a PM (in very limited circumstances), or decline the prorogation of parliament and force the PM to face a no confidence vote. They can also facilitate negotiations between parties, to form a new government. That's how parliamentary republics work and why there's a use in having a separate, independent and accountable head of state. They can guard against crisis and help manage those crises when they happen.

The scenario is
unlikely, but not impossible. Imagine if the result was different, where Labour had 300 seats and the Tories (in power) ended up with 285 seats and no other party had enough seats to give either side a majority. And imagine if the popular vote was marginally higher for the Tories than Labour. This could very quickly lead to the kind of situation that descends into constitutional crisis, where two parties can claim the legitimate right to govern.

Our constitution needs fixing, and we need an elected head of state.

Bridgeit Mon 11-Apr-22 21:58:41

I think you will find that is happening all the time.
There really hasn’t been a lot of improvement over a number of years.

nadateturbe Mon 11-Apr-22 21:54:53

You don't keep a system that's wrong because it provides employment.

Bridgeit Mon 11-Apr-22 21:45:23

Or perhaps despite the fame & fortune

Bridgeit Mon 11-Apr-22 21:43:38

Me , it was a question to those who imply some are only attracted by fame & fortune.

Lucca Mon 11-Apr-22 21:42:16

Bridgeit

So cynical ladies, is it only love if one marries a less well off suitor?

Who said that ?

Bridgeit Mon 11-Apr-22 21:41:39

So cynical ladies, is it only love if one marries a less well off suitor?

JaneJudge Mon 11-Apr-22 20:29:07

lol @ her not wanting to be famous

pinkprincess Mon 11-Apr-22 20:25:54

So Catherine was not interested n becoming famous?
The joke of the year.

volver Mon 11-Apr-22 20:12:29

No? Quelle surprise.

Bridgeit Mon 11-Apr-22 19:57:02

Obviously not.

volver Mon 11-Apr-22 19:33:24

Bridgeit

To be clear, it has been suggested we ‘ get rid of them’
(Getting rid of them ( what a horrible term )

If we do as you suggest , Then many many folks will loose their jobs & incomes.

Sorry, I didn't see this until after I posted.

Any comments on my post from 19:31 about people losing their jobs?

volver Mon 11-Apr-22 19:31:51

No, don't think so.

It wouldn't be anything at all like closing a factory.

Question: how do you think the countries without a sovereign maintain the balance between Parliament and the courts, and the Police?