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Sending U.K. refugees to Rawanda

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Esspee Thu 14-Apr-22 00:32:49

Is this Boris’s latest attempt to divert us all from dwelling on the fact that he repeatedly lied to parliament?

OakDryad Sat 16-Apr-22 15:12:52

Scott Benton would do well to keep quiet (and maybe binge watch some episodes of Yes, Minister). The man who took 8K's worth of free tickets from betting and gambling companies to watch prestigious football, tennis and horse-racing events (so did representatives of Labour) at the same time the government was undertaking a comprehensive review of the Gambling Act to consider further restrictions on their advertising. Benton would do to read and watch the Select Committee discussions on lobbying in the wake of the Owen Paterson case. To not understand that companies offer these sweeties for a reason is naive in the extreme as is his tweet on the role of the Civil Service and what he thinks democracy is.

poshpaws Sat 16-Apr-22 15:28:22

The Rwanda scheme will cost over £120 million – enough money to give every refugee in Britain a decent life, instead of spending it on imprisoning them. This plan manages to combine being inhumane and cruel with being unworkable.

MaizieD Sat 16-Apr-22 15:28:24

I enjoyed Anna Soubry's response to Scott Benson's ignorance of how the civil service works (I refer to my much earlier post with Peretz's explanation)

Early contender for #WazzockOfTheDay grin

Urmstongran Sat 16-Apr-22 15:57:07

When the Australian government made know that anyone caught trying to enter Australia illegally would never be allowed to settle in the Australia, the flow of migrants reduced to a trickle in a matter of days.

When the first aeroplane full of migrants takes off for Rwanda, social media will be red hot and staying in France, or not leaving their home country, will become the better option I think.

Yes, come here to the UK through the right way. Smuggle yourselves in? No thanks.

Visgir1 Sat 16-Apr-22 16:08:50

Denmark also passed a law last year to send Refugees to Rwanda.
Perhaps that's were the idea came from?

Maudi Sat 16-Apr-22 16:10:20

I agree Urmstongran when word gets around that they could be shipped to Rwanda paying the smuggling gangs upwards of 3000 pounds each might not look such an attractive idea. Perhaps with all this money in their pockets they will choose to stay in France or perhaps Germany instead of risking losing the lot or even their life on a dinghy.

GillT57 Sat 16-Apr-22 16:20:26

You two just keep on convincing each other. The rest of us have better things to do rather than read your repeated refusal to consider any other solutions. Or to be tainted second hand by your brexiteers soundbites.

Urmstongran Sat 16-Apr-22 16:26:54

Just scroll on by Gill57 whatever makes you happiest.
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Whitewavemark2 Sat 16-Apr-22 16:46:09

GillT57

You two just keep on convincing each other. The rest of us have better things to do rather than read your repeated refusal to consider any other solutions. Or to be tainted second hand by your brexiteers soundbites.

Good word ‘tainted’

varian Sat 16-Apr-22 16:48:42

The desperate refugees might pay the people smugglers £3k but that is not for the trip on the rubber dinghy - it's for the whole trip from whatever war zone or hell hole they start off from.

Maudi Sat 16-Apr-22 16:51:27

15:28MaizieD

Would that be the Anna Soubry who despises the working class white van man who takes pride in flying the English flag. I thought Labour were supposed to be for the working class obviously not, champagne solialist party more like.

As for WazzockOfTheDay she already has this trophy on her mantelpiece. ?

Maudi Sat 16-Apr-22 16:56:28

16:48varian

No it's not they pay the smuggler gangs at Calais for the privilege of getting on a dinghy. If they do pay before they reach France to be smuggled through the EU they most definitely are economic migrants and not fleeing a war zone.

Casdon Sat 16-Apr-22 16:57:08

I wonder who’s in line for the RightofGenghisKhan award - actually, I know.

Parsley3 Sat 16-Apr-22 16:58:42

Has Anna Soubry left Change UK and joined the Labour Party? Wasn’t it Emily Thornberry who sneered at white van man ?

Urmstongran Sat 16-Apr-22 16:58:58

Erm no I think that gong goes to Lady Nugee of Labour - Emily Thornberry Maudi.

Urmstongran Sat 16-Apr-22 17:00:13

X posts Parsley! “Your starter for 10 ... “ ?

Urmstongran Sat 16-Apr-22 17:03:33

Allison Pearson in the Telegraph yesterday:

“We were having dinner on holiday in Turkey last year, when the British couple at the next table started complaining how difficult the Covid regulations made it to return to the UK. “Be Syrian refugees!” advised the restaurant manager with a cheeky grin. Plenty of Turks he knew had travelled to the French coast, cut up their documents and credit cards and taken a small boat to England. Many were now happily working for their uncles in Tottenham.

Relatives in London, the manager explained, sent money back to their village in the Kurdish part of Turkey. Their nephews used the cash to pay the people smugglers for passage from Turkey to Greece, then, via France, by dinghy to England. And Ahmet’s your uncle!

Once the Turkish lads landed at Dover, they would claim their free smartphone and tell border officials they were persecuted Sunni Muslims from Syria. Even some of the north Africans now claimed they were Syrian so they’d improve their chances of being granted leave to stay.

The manager’s enthusiasm for this ruse was so infectious that, amidst our laughter, we forgot it was our own country that was the butt of the joke.

Quite clearly, the 600 people who scrambled ashore at Dungeness and Dover on Wednesday had not all decided to masquerade as desperate people from Aleppo. But, equally, not all 600 are the “vulnerable” asylum seekers cited by the refugee agencies who have been wailing on the airwaves since we learnt that “Priti Vicious” (as one newspaper called her) plans to send single, male asylum seekers on a one-way flight to Rwanda.”

Maudi Sat 16-Apr-22 17:11:15

Hands up I was wrong I always get these two mixed up.

GillT57 Sat 16-Apr-22 17:17:17

Maudi

15:28MaizieD

Would that be the Anna Soubry who despises the working class white van man who takes pride in flying the English flag. I thought Labour were supposed to be for the working class obviously not, champagne solialist party more like.

As for WazzockOfTheDay she already has this trophy on her mantelpiece. ?

No. It wasn't her.

growstuff Sat 16-Apr-22 17:17:19

I guess that makes a jovial dinner party story amongst a certain demographic Urmstongran. Now, back to real life ...

growstuff Sat 16-Apr-22 17:20:01

Maudi

Hands up I was wrong I always get these two mixed up.

Even then it's only a journalist's interpretation of a photo and tweet ... to stir up hatred from certain people.

growstuff Sat 16-Apr-22 17:21:44

Urmstongran

DaisyAnne

Sadly though growstuff this 20% think "everyone" thinks as they do and that those who don't are the minority. For balance, this will also be true of any minority group with strongly held views. To them, democracy is getting their way.

Ha! Just illustrated the Brexit referendum viewpoint.

What are you on about?

growstuff Sat 16-Apr-22 17:23:38

poshpaws

The Rwanda scheme will cost over £120 million – enough money to give every refugee in Britain a decent life, instead of spending it on imprisoning them. This plan manages to combine being inhumane and cruel with being unworkable.

It certainly will. It was because Patel couldn't provide any figures that the Civil Service wouldn't approve it. £120 is a ludicrously small amount when you think what's involved.

growstuff Sat 16-Apr-22 17:26:11

Urmstongran

When the Australian government made know that anyone caught trying to enter Australia illegally would never be allowed to settle in the Australia, the flow of migrants reduced to a trickle in a matter of days.

When the first aeroplane full of migrants takes off for Rwanda, social media will be red hot and staying in France, or not leaving their home country, will become the better option I think.

Yes, come here to the UK through the right way. Smuggle yourselves in? No thanks.

How exactly do they come to the country "the right way"? Go on! Tell us!

volver Sat 16-Apr-22 17:27:05

Private jet, growstuff. With their Russian passport in the seat pocket.